[3.10] Herald of Agony Mana Guardian | 2.5 Minute Sirus 8 | Deathless T19 100% Delirium

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Considering selling my gear off, if anyone is interested hit me up :)

POB
https://pastebin.com/uVZqMpqT


If that helm is in my price range I'd be interested tonight. Probably can't afford it though
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Hjelpen93 wrote:
I have some problems with auras, what is the cheapest way to run Hated + skitterbots? I'm using vicius projectile for my agony and have a CoN with 37% reduce at the moment


1) Conqueror's Efficiency
2) Enlighten 3
3) Two corrupted jewels with +1% to mana reservation reduction
4) Remove Clarity as it is useless without Watcher.

Run this in POB and you should get it.
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NSUCK wrote:


The difference in skeleton levels must make a huge difference because this is not my experience at all. When my internet isn't getting ping spikes my clear speed is similar to videos Sabba has on his twitch channel (I watched them with that specifically in mind after everyone said skeleton clear was bad).

Reflect maps are fine, you just recast skeles more often (think of it as using an attack spell). Metamorphs rarely decimate my skeletons, the really nasty ones can kill them but I just keep re-summoning them and they go down (typical metamorh from t14-16 with a max tube dies in under 3 seconds, some nasty ones can go up to 10 seconds).

I recently ditched the flayers and added the apes and a AG. Sitting at 24k ES and 6-10m DPS (haven't re-ran PoB yet but it should be 6m mapping and near 10m bossing with gem swap)


I had pretty much maxed gear afaik. +2 duration skin, +2 weapon, lvl 21 vaal skellies, empower 4. Skeletons were level 30 with 830k dps with ruthless, 550k with splash. Maybe I just didn't like the playstyle as much but it definitely felt more awkward and annoying to play. For example I've never had to respawn a flayer once ever but had to summon apes multiple times, sometimes in a single map.
Last edited by crazypearce on Jan 5, 2020, 4:25:52 PM
I believe my skeletons were level 30 also and I also didn’t like it as much as hoa. I very much liked having discipline and I did notice the extra defense but it was just clunky for mapping. I switched back and it felt much smoother although not as tanky.

I’ve since added 2 or 3 levels to hoa getting up to 31. I’ve dropped a bit of es down to 14k (no watchers eye) but the dps is insane and gameplay feels so smooth now. I’m only at awakened 5 but sirus was no problem although I died once, it was to me screwing up a storm so not related to the build. Otherwise he and his conquerors drop quite quickly.

I highly recommend lvl 31 hoa if you can do it. Even if you lose 500 es or so, it’s worth it!
A bit late to the party, but can someone with stoneskin flayers invite me please? I'm online now and my IGN is ChaosLitany. Thanks!

Edit: Got'em - thanks!!
Last edited by petervik on Jan 5, 2020, 4:50:08 PM
Vaal skeletons actually did make certain fights better. I think it was easier for bossing because the AI for skeletons seems to be better than the HOA AI.

It made boss fights a lot easier for me
Summon skeleton has 0 cast time. If you use ball lightning, you're literally standing there for for .75 sec (or less if you have % spell cast speed). After I summon skeletons, I just run around until they die and occasionally recast, which they actually did not die too often. I had to slow down on reflect maps and summon more but otherwise for bossing I thought it was better. I did make the mistake of having taunt on my skeletons through an abyss jewel. DO NOT DO THIS! Keep the flayer spectres with taunt. This is probably why some of you are losing your sksletons quickly. If you have taunt for all minions then your skellies will get melted.

With skeletons, I had curse with vuln on a ring and enfeeble on my gloves with whispers of doom. so that freed up a trigger on my weapon or a gem in general. I then ran carrion golem to buff the skeletons.

Also with skeletons, you have the vaal skill which summons like 40+ skeletons. Destroys bosses

I think for mapping, hoag is better because of the pierce and spread, but then when you boss, pierce is not the best gem to use. Skeletons are pretty fast with melee splash

This game is about trade offs, hard to find an awesome bosser and mapper.

Personal opinion is that for bossing skeletons is better. allows for a faster reacting character. ball lightning slows you down and you have to predict stuff or get faster spell casting.

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antmit wrote:
Vaal skeletons actually did make certain fights better. I think it was easier for bossing because the AI for skeletons seems to be better than the HOA AI.

It made boss fights a lot easier for me
Summon skeleton has 0 cast time. If you use ball lightning, you're literally standing there for for .75 sec (or less if you have % spell cast speed). After I summon skeletons, I just run around until they die and occasionally recast, which they actually did not die too often. I had to slow down on reflect maps and summon more but otherwise for bossing I thought it was better. I did make the mistake of having taunt on my skeletons through an abyss jewel. DO NOT DO THIS! Keep the flayer spectres with taunt. This is probably why some of you are losing your sksletons quickly. If you have taunt for all minions then your skellies will get melted.

With skeletons, I had curse with vuln on a ring and enfeeble on my gloves with whispers of doom. so that freed up a trigger on my weapon or a gem in general. I then ran carrion golem to buff the skeletons.

Also with skeletons, you have the vaal skill which summons like 40+ skeletons. Destroys bosses

I think for mapping, hoag is better because of the pierce and spread, but then when you boss, pierce is not the best gem to use. Skeletons are pretty fast with melee splash

This game is about trade offs, hard to find an awesome bosser and mapper.

Personal opinion is that for bossing skeletons is better. allows for a faster reacting character. ball lightning slows you down and you have to predict stuff or get faster spell casting.



quoting myself, but in reference to the posts above.. with skeletons I ran discipline as well and I had 17k es WITHOUT watchers eye and I had DPS. with the hoag version i was at about 12-13k es without watchers eye.

thats a lot of ES. elder and shaper were a joke. it's nice to be able to focus on the fight mechanics while skeletons attack. can't do the same with hoag. hoag you need to keep virulence up so you're attacking and focusing on fight mechanics.

pick the variant that fits your playstyle better. again, i think skeletons has some drawbacks in comparison to hoag, but it also has some pros!
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Nugsterx wrote:
How do i run hatred and HoA without dropping 5 exalts on a Circle of Nostalgia ring with reduced mana reservation on HoA? i have all the ring talent points.

Is that the only way or am i missing something?


skin of the lords with mortal conviction

this is mentioned as a "budget" option BUT it is actually great.
Why? because this frees up a ring slot. you no longer need the hoag ring. the hoag ring also has a useless chaos resist mod. now you can put in a rare ring with resists or whatever and better yet, a curse on hit ring with attributes, mana etc.

you can get enlightened 3 with mortal conviction and run:
1. hatred (free)
2. skitter bots
3. hoag

Hi,

So yah changing placement of the lethal pride to below minion instability gives you alot more bonus, it gives more flat strength but also if you're min maxin you have 4/5 nodes to get bonus,currently my lethal pride is giving me 5%increased strength,+20 strength and 1%regen this is without counting the minor nodes of course,which is pretty insane,but you can still divine it for 4 strength rolls which would be perfect.

About animate guardian it just feels too good not to have while mapping the free culling strike,flat 15%dmg and mitigation it gives us with immune to critical strikes and fortify its pretty insane not to use. But yah i can see how this is not an upgrade most players would want cause its a expensive investiment. I've been using empower instead of minion life but have to test it more to see which one is stronger.

Got the +1 Socketed gems corrupt yesterday on chest which increased my dmg by 1milion,got it after valling like 20 of them,would advice everyone to try and get a corrupted +1 to socketed gems since its a big increased in dmg.

Bought an amulet with +1 too which decreased my es but made it so i can hit lvl 31 on HoA which is a giant breakpoint for dmg.

Currently on pob with frenzy charges im at 6.6m dmg vs shaper
Heres Pob : https://pastebin.com/A2hKhz63

Also got aul depth 522 heres kill video if you want to post it hitman

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/531560346

Will keep trying to go deeper on delve,hope for 1k+,but with job its hard to give the time necessary but everytime i get an aul fight or something ill try and post it

Thanks ^^
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hitmantb wrote:
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Hjelpen93 wrote:
I have some problems with auras, what is the cheapest way to run Hated + skitterbots? I'm using vicius projectile for my agony and have a CoN with 37% reduce at the moment


1) Conqueror's Efficiency
2) Enlighten 3
3) Two corrupted jewels with +1% to mana reservation reduction
4) Remove Clarity as it is useless without Watcher.

Run this in POB and you should get it.


Thank you that fixed my problems!

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