Zeldoon's Physical DW BM Cleave 24k/35k DPS

Zeldoon:

Perhaps this is a noob question, but I have to ask:

What item levels of your axes are? I will farm high level maps for sure but am just curious how soon I can get a possible upgrade.

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HPftw wrote:

Zeldoon:

Perhaps this is a noob question, but I have to ask:

What item levels of your axes are? I will farm high level maps for sure but am just curious how soon I can get a possible upgrade.

Siege Axe - ilvl65
Infernal Axe - ilvl69

I have multiple ilvl 79 Siege and Infernal Axes I got from my map runs I'm trying to craft. Failing hard though =[

Hey Zeldoon, a very interesting build there. First of all I'm playing elemental cleave myself and interested on trying a physical one, but I've a couple of questions.

1. How much armour can you achieve with your current gear + build.
2. How important is attack speed when compared with physical damage node (point per point comparison), eg: 4% atk spd vs 8% physical node.

I can see the build has very high potential as physical damage does not suffer as much damage mitigation vs an elemental build (Elemental Equilibrium / Lightning Resistance map mod).

+is there a reason to spend an extra passive point at the marauder-templar side, instead of 10 str x3, you can connect with a 10 str & 10 dex node (bottom of Swashbuckler)

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vin_chow wrote:

Hey Zeldoon, a very interesting build there. First of all I'm playing elemental cleave myself and interested on trying a physical one, but I've a couple of questions.

1. How much armour can you achieve with your current gear + build.
2. How important is attack speed when compared with physical damage node (point per point comparison), eg: 4% atk spd vs 8% physical node.

I can see the build has very high potential as physical damage does not suffer as much damage mitigation vs an elemental build (Elemental Equilibrium / Lightning Resistance map mod).

+is there a reason to spend an extra passive point at the marauder-templar side, instead of 10 str x3, you can connect with a 10 str & 10 dex node (bottom of Swashbuckler)

I'm not sure how much armour I could get, cause I really haven't made it a priority and don't think I really need to. Granite Flask + Endurance Charge + 10k Armour with just Grace has worked well for me. Even Rhoas in level 76/77maps didn't pose much of a threat.

About the 4%Atk Spd vs 8%Physical, I don't know whats better, I'll test it out and let you know. I can easily remove a 4% Atk Spd right now and put it into an 8% Physical Axe Mastery. However I'm offline right now when I get on to play I'll test it. I'd also imagine your equipment will also have an effect.

About my passive, I plan to change that whole section into this when I hit 86, currently 85.

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgQAAdwB5wSzBS0OrRHVEuEUIBRNFHUXHRjbJ-0ppTIJMok0kzWGNug4ljpSOrM64TrtPC1DnEd-Sn1N404qUEdT31eXV-JYr1jbW69gQWBLYSFjcGVNZadnoHKpdO108XfleA16uHrvfNmE2YTvh3aI8ZAKlZuZK5stm4OeuaIAouqkGaZXpzCpbqxZrKquk7T5tfK2QbcXtz69gb6KvqfAD8T2xq7KkNJN3Q3fv-Jh4urnY-9O7-PwH_JF8938xf4K_o9Z88AakFWnhBo47DhfOd3j974=

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Zeldoon wrote:

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vin_chow wrote:

Hey Zeldoon, a very interesting build there. First of all I'm playing elemental cleave myself and interested on trying a physical one, but I've a couple of questions.

1. How much armour can you achieve with your current gear + build.
2. How important is attack speed when compared with physical damage node (point per point comparison), eg: 4% atk spd vs 8% physical node.

I can see the build has very high potential as physical damage does not suffer as much damage mitigation vs an elemental build (Elemental Equilibrium / Lightning Resistance map mod).

+is there a reason to spend an extra passive point at the marauder-templar side, instead of 10 str x3, you can connect with a 10 str & 10 dex node (bottom of Swashbuckler)

I'm not sure how much armour I could get, cause I really haven't made it a priority and don't think I really need to. Granite Flask + Endurance Charge + 10k Armour with just Grace has worked well for me. Even Rhoas in level 76/77maps didn't pose much of a threat.

About the 4%Atk Spd vs 8%Physical, I don't know whats better, I'll test it out and let you know. I can easily remove a 4% Atk Spd right now and put it into an 8% Physical Axe Mastery. However I'm offline right now when I get on to play I'll test it. I'd also imagine your equipment will also have an effect.

About my passive, I plan to change that whole section into this when I hit 86, currently 85.

Thanks for the quick reply. Thought of making a marauder start, but duelist side seems to have too many good nodes that I cant avoid (aspd/block/armour/phys.) :p Also about Carnage Heart, do you think you can replace the necklace once you have enough regen/chaos resistance to run Bloodrage. Might able to sustain with your current gears.

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vin_chow wrote:

Thanks for the quick reply. Thought of making a marauder start, but duelist side seems to have too many good nodes that I cant avoid (aspd/block/armour/phys.) :p Also about Carnage Heart, do you think you can replace the necklace once you have enough regen/chaos resistance to run Bloodrage. Might able to sustain with your current gears.

I think Blood Rage works a lot better on CI builds. However, even if I could use it, I'm too lazy to use it. I mean I have to make sure I have endurance charges to stay alive when I hit something with reflect physical, imagine I forget to get Life Leech from Blood Rage too. I'd be dead. My chaos resistance is at -13% and my regen is terrible so it's not something I can use even if I wanted to.

Not to mention I need the +Attribute from Carnage Heart to use concentrated effect as it is my only source of Int on equipment. Also my 7%LL is really terrible and I really need to get a 10% one so I can get rid of the point in Blood Drinker.

Yeah, refreshing Endurance and Frenzy charges is enough work ;)

I noticed that most people dont know how life steal works in this game. For those who dont know, the life steal isnt instant. After each attack it apply an extra life regen buff, wich have longer or shorter duration depending on the Maximum HP you have.

I Pretty much gave up on my dual wield duliest but you have gave me hope. I powered through the hard times and am doing fairly well finally.

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgQAAAYB3AHnBS0OrRHVEiAUIBR1FfYXHRjbGdUhYCRqKaUwfDIJMww0kzboOlI67UCgQ5xGaUd-Sn1Nkk4qUEdRR1eXWK9br16LXzlgQWBLYnljcGVNZ6B0QXTtdPF313gNeOt6738rg72E2YcZh3aNv5AKmSubLZ65n6OnMKefqn-quLZBuDe9gb6KvqfKkM_40O7VHNaK3Q3d493n37_miOsU707v4_ej_MX-K__e

I took some INT nodes cause I'm using a curse. But my dps is only 1.5k little help please.
Thanks :)

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bigshot1231 wrote:

I Pretty much gave up on my dual wield duliest but you have gave me hope. I powered through the hard times and am doing fairly well finally.

Yay more power to the Duelist :P

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mangtarug wrote:

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgQAAAYB3AHnBS0OrRHVEiAUIBR1FfYXHRjbGdUhYCRqKaUwfDIJMww0kzboOlI67UCgQ5xGaUd-Sn1Nkk4qUEdRR1eXWK9br16LXzlgQWBLYnljcGVNZ6B0QXTtdPF313gNeOt6738rg72E2YcZh3aNv5AKmSubLZ65n6OnMKefqn-quLZBuDe9gb6KvqfKkM_40O7VHNaK3Q3d493n37_miOsU707v4_ej_MX-K__e

I took some INT nodes cause I'm using a curse. But my dps is only 1.5k little help please.
Thanks :)

Well correct me if I'm wrong but I think Iron Reflex + Arrow Dodging is a terrible combo.

I personally would remove all the point on the right side that's past Ambidexterity, because I don't believe in crit working well for Cleave users. There might be a build that works out there, you might want to ask somebody who focuses on a crit build it's not something I have much knowledge about. I am a resolute technique user after all.

You should definitely remove that 3%atk spd above thick skin unless you're aiming for something. Fencing near Thick Skin is good way to get easy damage.

If you're a sword user, Cruel Blade and Blade Master is worth a look.

If you're an Axe user Splitting Strikes is worth a look. There's other Axe nodes too to look at if you don't use Resolute technique but become obsolete if you ever decide to use Resolute Technique.

But yeah if you want to stick with a crit build I'm definitely the wrong guy to ask.