What is GGG's official stance on multi-clienting/dual boxing?
" Point 1: I would run say 6 totem/minion witches, all with same setup/skills/flasks and so on. And then the multiboxing software would simply repeat my actions across all clients. Point 2: Botting means to eliminate human-game interaction entirely. Multi boxing is *dependent* on me playing the game. Multi boxing means if i dont use my PC to play said game like any other players plays said game, nothing happens. (except my characters will probably perish due to me being afk) Key differences here is: Botting = Independent of the human. Multiboxing = dependent on the human. :) PS: I also own/use macro mouse and macro keyboard, i can program things down to "wait 50 ms then press A then H then CTRL wait 10 ms then MouseButton1". Also if i really wanted, its also possible to have a program read the graphic signal (streaming software can capture the desktop for example) on my HP orb and setup a simple C++ program that auto uses *instant recovery when below 35% HP-potion* when *certain pixels becomes any other color then red*. It wont show up as tampering with PoE Client, will only register as a Key-press from the keyboard and is 99% insurance against low health death related mishaps ingame as long as the instant flask is filled with enough charges. So as you can see, multi boxing isnt the biggest thing you have to worry about! :) Last edited by Planetsurvival#1516 on Dec 22, 2012, 11:16:31 PM
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" Which is still automation, and thus, botting. --- I really don't get why these threads keep popping up, if you have to ask if something is wrong - usually that means your gut is telling you not to do it. |
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Speaking purely for myself, I have no problem with people playing by themselves, and this method just seems like playing by yourself to an even more unsocial degree than most would find entertaining.
The issue I would guess lies in the fact that this method simulates a full party but one where one member gets all the loot. And they said *I* was bad at PoE. At least I made it out of act 1 and know how to use the /dnd function. El oh fucking el.
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" Actually its *tool assisted* kinda, not botting at all. But most view it as botting anyway for some strange reason. :( WoW lets people multibox without caring about them at all, same with eve online. " Well thing is, i dont play with people because of the FFA system for loot and that i dont like playing with people at all. Infact i avoid other players like the plague. With multiboxing i have 100% control over my party member like in some RPGs i play singleplayer. No warrior running ahead because they saw a regal orb and no white mage forgetting to heal because they had to go do their natural needs in real life. If i can play with 6 self designed, reliable, responsive Alts all mimicking my main char im a happy player! And would even consider paying for more bling-bling and extras in your cash shop! Last edited by Planetsurvival#1516 on Dec 23, 2012, 12:02:39 AM
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" I'm sure it's useless to argue about this with you but whatever. Botting is automating processes via computer scripting/programming, which is EXACTLY what that's doing. GGG is against any third-party application that automates a process where otherwise there would need to be additional player intervention to continue with such a rate. This isn't WoW, this isn't EVE. Last edited by Elynole#2906 on Dec 23, 2012, 12:05:59 AM
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" I stated before, multiboxing *requires* continous human input. I can already multibox with my programmable keyboard and mouse. ISboxer just makes it easier. By your definition the keyboard is a botting tool if it uses a third party software to be programable. And again Botting is *the removal of **ALL** human inputs in favor of a program that plays the game* while one eats/walks the dog/watch tv. Im trying to understand your point of view but really, i dont understand how you think botting = multiboxing at all. :( Last edited by Planetsurvival#1516 on Dec 23, 2012, 12:20:47 AM
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" Via Scripting. Automation. This isn't a new concept, I use it a lot at work with server administration and data manipulation. Just because you have to put input into a script doesn't mean that it doesn't take that input and run with it and perform a million different processes in the back-end to automate processes. " Yes, a good amount of gaming keyboards come with 3rd party applications that allow automation for hotkeying and scripting, in which you've stated in previous posts where you can press 1 key and a 5 key input pops out. " Regardless of what your definition is of it, it's 3rd party applications that aid in the automation of processes that would otherwise be cause to more manual labor by the player - 3rd party applications that aid in this way are not-needed, wanted, or otherwise legal in this game. Last edited by Elynole#2906 on Dec 23, 2012, 12:21:53 AM
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" Well i still cant see your point of view. And i guess your as anti-multiboxing as i am pro-multiboxing. Anyway what matters is GGGs view. As they decide/ban whats allowed/not allowed. Though i dont see how they can detect/counter the most basic of *tools* that players can program with 1 hour of spare time. Without rendering similar unused tools used for other purposes in other software/games labeled as *bannable software*. Last edited by Planetsurvival#1516 on Dec 23, 2012, 12:33:26 AM
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" Considering PoE has skyrocketed as far as player participation recently, heading into Open Beta I'm sure we'll see GGG expand on their explanations on this as well as an expanded EULA/TOS. Regardless of if their able to track it or not, I feel gamer's usually have the misconception that they're "entitled" in online play to anything they've obtained in the game - in which they're not. Reading most EULA/TOS for games will show you that you're no more entitled to anything in the game as you are to our moon in the sky. You're renting a license to connect to their hardware, that's it. With most subscription based games, you're entitlement ends at that of logging in - if Blizzard decided to make all of their game servers log you in to an environment that consisted of everyone being in a white box - legally, there's nothing that you could do about it. Since PoE is Free-to-Play, your entitlement is that much less, you have none. Whether they're able to detect it or not isn't what players need to ask themselves; What they should question themselves about is their morals of right and wrong based on the rules that have been provided by those who have worked tirelessly to create the content. I'm not anti-multi-boxing. I merely try and follow what GGG has provided feedback on, I have a great deal of interest in this game - it's become my addiction - and I'd hate to see it ruined simply due to people's laziness or greed. Last edited by Elynole#2906 on Dec 23, 2012, 12:45:51 AM
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" I agree that Path of exile is an amazing game. And i also hope GGG clarify the EULA/TOS. In my country though, EULA/TOS is kinda not that binding due to local laws i think. I thank everyone for a great debate, and i hope that this debate also made GGG think more about this issue. And if sounded annoyed and such i didnt mean too, havent slept much lately. |
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