Cyclone
I just killed Cruel Vaal at level 44. I had a nice weapon, but it was super easy and safe.
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Why does removal of movespeed via ailments stop the skill but using a quicksilver flask mid-cyclone doesn't affect (increase) the speed of the rest of the cyclone?
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" What is ur setup with it? I think ur setup isnt suited for ur build/setup as I've seen people reach over 1500 dps with it lol. I myself am about to hit lvl 40 so I can use this badboy: That one combined with Weapon Elemental will make me surpass ur measly 300 dps with a 3link so Im curious to ur setup. Postcount +1
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Can I ask why Cyclone is nerfed for duel wielding as opposed to 1h&shield/2h weapons?
Listed dmg 2* 1h: Cyclone: 1800 Cleave: 6252 Listed dmg 1h: Cyclone: 1480 Cleave: 2875 Obviously we're not supposed to use cyclone when duel wielding? Weapons used: Last edited by Boyen86#5481 on Mar 15, 2013, 8:16:20 AM
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" I'm so glad you're amused. I compared level 1 ww to level 1 cyclone. We have a problem in this thread where different people are trying to make different arguments about different levels of cyclone, clearly. I am responding from MY experience, and that is with lower levels of cyclone. It is great. It is powerful. Mana is not an issue. I will go into more specifics in a later post, this is just a response to your childish ranting. If there's a SCALING problem with cyclone then people should say that. I haven't read that yet. I just read general whining that it's never strong, etc. And that is simply NOT TRUE. My dualist proves it. -Aaron |
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" Those changes I can absolutely agree with, and thank you for the considered response. YOU may be talking about end game but if you read a lot of the comments in this thread, people are saying cyclone sucks THROUGHOUT. And it does NOT. Now, if it sucks endgame, that's a scaling issue. So critique it in those terms and your argument will be clear. Is that reasonable? =D -Aaron |
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" I know I'm spamming right now, but I think this skill is better for dual-wield the way it's designed. If you want AOE with a 2-hander you probably are better off with cleave or sweep perhaps (not tested or compared so don't pounce on me) or whatever. This is because with cleave, for example, there's a 40% extra damage penalty if dual-wielding. I believe, in my build and gameplay, that is what is making Cyclone a better skill for me than cleave. I am about to abandon cleave entirely, in fact. -Aaron |
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Thanks for the update Mark_GGG, know that it is much appreciated.
Gonna be looking forward what you guys will come up with for Cyclone. Though I hope you're not going to be changing the base mechanics of the skill - the potential is already there, I feel it just needs a few tweaks to the numbers to make it shine. Higher damage effectiveness, slightly bigger AoE, that sort of thing. |
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Ran cyclone with mana leach, weapon elemental, added lightning, and life leach with wrath, hatred auras on and I even grabbed twin terrors to test it with cyclone/claws. I will admit that mana leach and life leach keep me topped off but having to keep 100+ mana to use cyclone in the first place and then having it take 5x plus time to kill then cleave is crazy. Abyssus Crit Cleave - http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/381106
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