[3.6] BSC Winter Orb~2 min UE~Ridiculous Clear Speed~ Updated PoB
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Essem wrote:
As far as i can understand the new Hatred is better than Herald of thunder + aspect of the spider.
It also opens you up to get a Watchers eye with adds cold damage while affected by hatred.
So you should be running Herald of Ash + Ice and Hatred.
Is this a real thing? Wondering the logic behind this.
Hatred now gives phys as extra cold and more cold damage. SO it is usable for casters now. Hatred gives me 20k more than thunder+spider. and the watchers eyes is equivalent to a very very good jewel for a fraction of the price. Results could vary id imagine depending on stats. A watchers eye with adds cold damage + increased cold or cold penetration would be ideal ofc.
Last edited by Essem#3340 on Mar 25, 2019, 7:12:17 PM
As far as i can understand the new Hatred is better than Herald of thunder + aspect of the spider.
It also opens you up to get a Watchers eye with adds cold damage while affected by hatred.
So you should be running Herald of Ash + Ice and Hatred.
Is this a real thing? Wondering the logic behind this.
Hatred now gives phys as extra cold and more cold damage. SO it is usable for casters now. Hatred gives me 20k more than thunder+spider. and the watchers eyes is equivalent to a very very good jewel for a fraction of the price. Results could vary id imagine depending on stats. A watchers eye with adds cold damage + increased cold or cold penetration would be ideal ofc.
Where is the source of phys damage coming from though? Am I missingsomething blatant?
I hate to pull the wiki but: "Hatred casts an aura that provides bonus cold damage based on the physical damage of the caster and their allies" and the skill text also agrees with this.
Aside from the % increased cold damage I dont see where Hatred gets the raw phys to convert from?
We are using the Devotos only for the Dexterity and the Movement Speed? Attack speed doesn't affect Winter Orb or does it?
Because i was thinking to use a helmet with hypothermia for the 40% more damage vs chilled enemies as a pseude 5link on the Vaal Blade Vortex setup.
I got this one for 9c and it has life and resis, too:
What do you think?
Thx
Its not a bad idea but wont be as viable end game. Devotos also gives 10% reduced phys damage, chaos res, and way more armor and evasion
ok, thx for the quick reply :)
As far as i know the reduced phys damage is outgoing, so it won't affect us. I don't have that much currency so maybe i'll try it out, because it will be easier like this to cap my resis.
so I was wondering is this the best setup for the crafted weapon in 3.6?
if i get the 20% elemental as extra chaos damage then I craft those
1P>46-50% increased Spell Damage +Gain 4% of Non-Chaos Damage as extra Chaos Damage.....1 Ex
2P>Gain 6-7% of Non-Chaos Damage as extra Chaos Dmg.........4 Vaal
3S>Can have multi - 2ex
4S>11-13% increased Cast Speed +10% chance to gain Arcane Surge on kill....4 C
5S>4-5% chance to deal Double Damage.............1 Div
Where is the source of phys damage coming from though? Am I missingsomething blatant?
I hate to pull the wiki but: "Hatred casts an aura that provides bonus cold damage based on the physical damage of the caster and their allies" and the skill text also agrees with this.
Aside from the % increased cold damage I dont see where Hatred gets the raw phys to convert from?
Sorry if I am being dumb - just trying to learn.
The updated Hatred gem is now:
You and nearby allies gain (16-25)% of Physical Damage as Extra Cold Damage
You and nearby allies deal (14-18)% more Cold Damage
The Physical conversion is useless yes. But the 2nd part of the gem is quite good for a cold caster build. For me its a solid dps increase over a herald + spider combo.
Where is the source of phys damage coming from though? Am I missingsomething blatant?
I hate to pull the wiki but: "Hatred casts an aura that provides bonus cold damage based on the physical damage of the caster and their allies" and the skill text also agrees with this.
Aside from the % increased cold damage I dont see where Hatred gets the raw phys to convert from?
Sorry if I am being dumb - just trying to learn.
The updated Hatred gem is now:
You and nearby allies gain (16-25)% of Physical Damage as Extra Cold Damage
You and nearby allies deal (14-18)% more Cold Damage
The Physical conversion is useless yes. But the 2nd part of the gem is quite good for a cold caster build. For me its a solid dps increase over a herald + spider combo.
I did some experimenting, but unless I am missing some %reduced reserved nodes somewhere, I do not have enough unreserved mana to channel a full 12 stacks on orb.
