[3.5] Occultist Vortex/Cold Snap ES/CI - Deathless and Safe Uber Elder and T16's

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Ashtrey wrote:
Another option could be Frostbite curse (in the CWDT setup) and run Cinderswallow urn instead for es/mana regen.
Also I forgot 3 spider stacks in my POB config, so it's 802k dps instead of 718k.
I'm not sure how to account for Frostbite added dps in that setup however.


set frostbite alone in the skill setup. you should see it appear in the debuffs/curse section. I always run cinderswallow ;)
Playing the pob warrior, I went to the right of the tree and took the int nodes. As well I did drop blast radius and (re)took wiked ward. This frees a point for one of he 6% es node.

I completely forgo vile bastion and go for malediction and frigid wake instead.

my dps went up from 1.1m to 1.5m.
my es went down from 12500 to... 11800! :)

(my lowlife version went from 1.9 to 2.4m dps, but from 11.5k to 9.5k es)

I have a feeling that might of meek has more to work with in this configuration, and saves the day but I didn't check in details.

One of the good news for our little occie is that she didn't rely much on jewels and particularly abyss jewels.

All in all, I'm very pleasantly surprised.

ci: https://pastebin.com/HkFbhRuJ
ll: https://pastebin.com/TBGSeBs0




Last edited by roselan#6478 on Jun 6, 2019, 4:56:08 PM
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roselan wrote:
Playing the pob warrior, I went to the right of the tree and took the int nodes. As well I did drop blast radius and (re)took wiked ward. This frees a point for one of he 6% es node.

I completely forgo vile bastion and go for malediction and frigid wake instead.

my dps went up from 1.1m to 1.5m.
my es went down from 12500 to... 11800! :)

(my lowlife version went from 1.9 to 2.4m dps, but from 11.5k to 9.5k es)

I have a feeling that might of meek has more to work with in this configuration, and saves the day but I didn't check in details.

One of the good news for our little occie is that she didn't rely much on jewels and particularly abyss jewels.

All in all, I'm very pleasantly surprised.

ci: https://pastebin.com/HkFbhRuJ
ll: https://pastebin.com/TBGSeBs0


yeah the dps and ES are somewhat in line with what I have. I think if I go for malediction I can push back to 3m shaper dps and around 10k ES. but will try to path more defensively now that ES regen is less. will have to see how it goes. I think I agree that malediction+frigid would be a better path. forbidden power doesnt offer as much. we might be gem starved because of the setup but will have to balance it out somehow.

all in all I think an ideal goal of 2m sdps and 12k ES would be comfortable. rip my bottled faith and synth wand though haha
How do you feel about losing Stun immunity from Vile Bastion? Do you fix it by wearing a unique providing such immunity or just deal with the stuns? I have no idea how it is to play without it.
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Ashtrey wrote:
How do you feel about losing Stun immunity from Vile Bastion? Do you fix it by wearing a unique providing such immunity or just deal with the stuns? I have no idea how it is to play without it.


off the head suggestions that come to mind first - pantheon. some passives help with that. some items help with that. some mods on items help with that too. gotta google and see how much you need. I think there are discussions as to how to deal with them. I have not researched on those in depth yet.
Last edited by SonsOfKorhal#5375 on Jun 7, 2019, 4:12:16 AM
For low life builds, Presence of Chayula amulet seems op.

For CI... dunno.
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roselan wrote:
For low life builds, Presence of Chayula amulet seems op.

For CI... dunno.


yeah this is one of the common ways. but im not sure if a rare amulet can outperform this
Not sure how this build would work with limited stun immunity, considering we need to walk into a cluster of mobs to drop Vortex.
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_Elminister_ wrote:
Not sure how this build would work with limited stun immunity, considering we need to walk into a cluster of mobs to drop Vortex.


as mentioned in the above post, it could be possible to grab items/pantheons/mod lines to reduce the impact of stun on us. it definitely is mitigatable.

on a side note this dropped

might try grabbing the duration nodes on the shaper side of the scion wheel ^^
Last edited by SonsOfKorhal#5375 on Jun 8, 2019, 8:04:02 AM
Bro, GGG broke the build =( I got minus 3k energy shield!!! Any ideas? Help plz

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