[3.5] Occultist Vortex/Cold Snap ES/CI - Deathless and Safe Uber Elder and T16's

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おねえちゃん wrote:
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Ashtrey wrote:
I'll give Profane bloom a try, it should improve mapping clearspeed.

2 new nodes to look for:
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Help solving mana issue.

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Scaling int is a good way to gain a lot of ES, but it is inside Might of the Meek range, so probably not worth it unless we have lots of int on gear.


These seem the way to go for the future tree. Using the same gear I currently have (which will be harder to obtain in Legion), I'm at about 10.1k ES from previously 11.2k ES. Obviously, I lost damage to spec (respec Heart of Ice to Utmost Intellect) into more defenses but I think this trade off is worth it (550k vs 610k Shaper CDoT DPS).


https://pastebin.com/ya6JRueJ

This is my 3.7 tree but it's for a level 95 character. I think most people will get towards 90 easily so nodes I'd remove are probably Zealot's Oath (use a flask for it), stat nodes if you have gear for it, 2 ES nodes near Path of the Savant, and I'm not sure what else.

AS for ascendancies now that WIcked Ward has been moved, I think I might go towards Profane Bloom which requires testing to see how it helps my issues with stragglers outside the Vortex AoE. Nothing really seems fancy.



But remember you can't quality boots or gloves or helm anymore
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SonsOfKorhal wrote:
... and power charges would go well with forbidden power and a +4% spell dmg per power charge passive node.


It's not more spell dmg, it's increased so it's not so good. I checked in POB, 4 active power charge = +2.2% more dps. And +1 radius for the area of effect).
Overall, it doesn't look very good :(
Last edited by Ashtrey#7627 on Jun 6, 2019, 4:42:05 AM
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Ashtrey wrote:
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SonsOfKorhal wrote:
... and power charges would go well with forbidden power and a +4% spell dmg per power charge passive node.


It's not more spell dmg, it's increased so it's not so good. I checked in POB, 4 active power charge = +2.2% more dps. And +1 radius for the area of effect).
Overall, it doesn't look very good :(


which is why i've been saying that i'll only transition into this when I can run dual oblit's. and before that will take profane bloom for a better mapping experience.
My new 3.7 tree (lvl95 - no ZO on tree / no spiritual aid):

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Summary:
- same dps
- net loss of 2050 es (I was at about 16.2k) I will end at about 14.2k.
- +230 mana, not bad I may remove one or two some mana nodes to dps/es (or leave it as it is if I can get a clarity es mod watcher eye)
- 50% less regen/leech & -20% regen from vile bastion :(

Notable change, I decided to skip the ES witch start (+10 flat es is just so bad) and go for the spell damage one instead.
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Ashtrey wrote:
My new 3.7 tree (lvl95 - no ZO on tree / no spiritual aid):

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Summary:
- same dps
- net loss of 2050 es (I was at about 16.2k) I will end at about 14.2k.
- +230 mana, not bad I may remove one or two some mana nodes to dps/es (or leave it as it is if I can get a clarity es mod watcher eye)
- 50% less regen/leech & -20% regen from vile bastion :(

Notable change, I decided to skip the ES witch start (+10 flat es is just so bad) and go for the spell damage one instead.


How's the dps? Btw you can generate a pastebin code so it looks like ours, in a short URL haha. Otherwise I think based on your summary it looks good! 14k is way more ES than mine. That would be a goal for me :P

I never thought whether I would take the spell damage over the ES starting nodes. Might try since you've considered it.
Can't pastebin at work :p
718k shaper dot dps.
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Ashtrey wrote:
Can't pastebin at work :p
718k shaper dot dps.


HAHA me too. I think 720k sdps is pretty comfortable and that's a nice ES you have

here's my 3.7
https://pastebin.com/xhHZ2unL

and my 3.6 as a ref
https://pastebin.com/ZbdqSqd8

I'm also considering if the regen is not worth from vile bastion whether to go all the way and take malediction instead. probably run a 2nd curse via stibnite flask or sth.
Going from 718k to 847k dps (+18% dps!) if I go for Malediction instead of Vile Bastion with a Witchfire Brew flask. And it also reduce damage taken.. Damn that's tempting!
Last edited by Ashtrey#7627 on Jun 6, 2019, 9:08:18 AM
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Ashtrey wrote:
Going from 718k to 847k dps (+18% dps!) if I go for Malediction instead of Vile Bastion with a Witchfire Brew flask. And it also reduce damage taken.. Damn that's tempting!


yep. that was what I was considering. probably early game run a heretic's veil with enlighten. for QOL to just blasphemy the curses. otherwise i'll see how I can include other curses into the setup, as well as mitigate the ES regen from vile bastion. because all that vile bastion provides now is 10% regen. it doesnt give the 150 ES either. so we definitely can deal with that in other ways, if we do take malediction.
Another option could be Frostbite curse (in the CWDT setup) and run Cinderswallow urn instead for es/mana regen.
Also I forgot 3 spider stacks in my POB config, so it's 802k dps instead of 718k.
I'm not sure how to account for Frostbite added dps in that setup however.

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