[3.6] Vowel's Crit Storm Brand Elementalist - Flaskless Uber Elder

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Banev wrote:
Hi. Leveled this until 95,did everything besides delve bosses (not encountered any), chayula and failed the fight against ueber elder. But it was my first try. I wait till l96 for the next fight. Also I've took second curse keystone. Lightning herald + coh+elemental weakness and warlords mark ring. Current 4.8k life, 1.7k unreserved mana, capped res and chaos resistance sitting at 0%. I think that I need more life, but not sure where to get. Also need better weapon I think.
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Couple of pointers (Though as you seem to have got further than me, not sure if I'm really qualified!)

- If you aren't putting the trap in the gloves, get better gloves. You could either get a chunk more life/resists etc in some rares quite cheaply, or use something life fenumus weave. If you go for the rare option, it might free up the ring slot to use mark of the shaper.

-Switching from Atziri steps to Temple boots with dodge might let you get resists too, again freeing up gear slots.

- That's a nifty helm. I don't believe innervate works with traps though, will get the flat damage but won't proc innervate (Or does it proc just for the trap? Can't remember exactly)

- I wouldn't use added cold and added lightning. Controlled destruction is better than either of them.

- The life wheel is hell of a detour, especially with 2 5% nodes untaken, and purity of flesh nearby. Just taking 2 points at purity of flesh and the 2 5% nodes is more life, with 3 points spare. If you route round to the brand nodes via the top route, removing the dex and int node between witch and templar it's more efficient for grabbing whispers of doom, and gives access to a 3 point jewel socket.

- On that note, i don't think whispers of doom is worth it for an extra penetration curse. When you need it, vs bosses it's just not very effective. If you can get an extra curse for 'free' on gear somewhere, fine, but not the node.

- Yeah a better weapon would help. I put my one on your character (And mine isn't brilliant) and it's 20% more dps.


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Carlovski wrote:
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Banev wrote:
Hi. Leveled this until 95,did everything besides delve bosses (not encountered any), chayula and failed the fight against ueber elder. But it was my first try. I wait till l96 for the next fight. Also I've took second curse keystone. Lightning herald + coh+elemental weakness and warlords mark ring. Current 4.8k life, 1.7k unreserved mana, capped res and chaos resistance sitting at 0%. I think that I need more life, but not sure where to get. Also need better weapon I think.
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Couple of pointers (Though as you seem to have got further than me, not sure if I'm really qualified!)

- If you aren't putting the trap in the gloves, get better gloves. You could either get a chunk more life/resists etc in some rares quite cheaply, or use something life fenumus weave. If you go for the rare option, it might free up the ring slot to use mark of the shaper.

-Switching from Atziri steps to Temple boots with dodge might let you get resists too, again freeing up gear slots.

- That's a nifty helm. I don't believe innervate works with traps though, will get the flat damage but won't proc innervate (Or does it proc just for the trap? Can't remember exactly)

- I wouldn't use added cold and added lightning. Controlled destruction is better than either of them.

- The life wheel is hell of a detour, especially with 2 5% nodes untaken, and purity of flesh nearby. Just taking 2 points at purity of flesh and the 2 5% nodes is more life, with 3 points spare. If you route round to the brand nodes via the top route, removing the dex and int node between witch and templar it's more efficient for grabbing whispers of doom, and gives access to a 3 point jewel socket.

- On that note, i don't think whispers of doom is worth it for an extra penetration curse. When you need it, vs bosses it's just not very effective. If you can get an extra curse for 'free' on gear somewhere, fine, but not the node.

- Yeah a better weapon would help. I put my one on your character (And mine isn't brilliant) and it's 20% more dps.



I would also add if you are going for the double curses route, don't waste points pathing there. Get a corrupted Amulet with Addition Curse. Since you are using Warlord's Mark you don't need the leech from the amulet anymore.

Something like this.

Extra leech is very good for survival. Especially against tough bosses (shaper, guardians, elder. So are atziri boots when using acrobatics. Main point of the helm isn't innervate (it does not work with lightning spire), it is the enchant and delve mod. Also good chunk of life. I need better gloves with faster casting support for flame dash. Also need better herald of lighting setup. I think it would be better to drop lightning spire trap altogether and get something different for the helm. Any ideas?
Last edited by Banev#5008 on Jan 30, 2019, 8:49:55 AM
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Banev wrote:
Extra leech is very good for survival. Especially against tough bosses (shaper, guardians, elder. So are atziri boots when using acrobatics. Main point of the helm isn't innervate (it does not work with lightning spire), it is the enchant and delve mod. Also good chunk of life. I need better gloves with faster casting support for flame dash. Also need better herald of lighting setup. I think it would be better to drop lightning spire trap altogether and get something different for the helm. Any ideas?


The thing is there is a leech cap of 20%, which one can easily hit if you are hitting enough enemies. Warlord's Mark and Atziri's Promise is plenty. I would also get rid of Lavianga's Spirit, there is no real point in your having it unless you are in a no regen AND no leech map.


Given your gear, I would strongly recommend you keep Lightning Spiral Trap, because right now you are sitting at 50k DPS for each Brand, which is really bad for those bosses you just mentioned.

You are also sitting at an effective life of 6.1k (4.8k life and 1.3k unreserved mana), which means you'll die...a lot.

The first thing you should look to replace is your weapon, and make sure there are no gem affixes in it as it increased the mana reserve of Herald of Thunder. Try to get the "extra damage as chaos" mods and if not that then go for cast speed. Cast Speed is one of the best stats you can get for Storm Brand.

You should also look to replace your jewels with hypnotic eye abyss jewels that give life and added lightning damage to spells.

Last edited by Bioness#7668 on Jan 30, 2019, 9:20:17 AM
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Banev wrote:
Extra leech is very good for survival. Especially against tough bosses (shaper, guardians, elder. So are atziri boots when using acrobatics. Main point of the helm isn't innervate (it does not work with lightning spire), it is the enchant and delve mod. Also good chunk of life. I need better gloves with faster casting support for flame dash. Also need better herald of lighting setup. I think it would be better to drop lightning spire trap altogether and get something different for the helm. Any ideas?


As mentioned, you are probably hitting leech cap anyway. Extra leech isn't a bad thing, and it's handy for curse immune maps, but not if you can squeeze something better in there.

Yep, the helm is decent regardless, just checking you did know about innervate. It does mean your trap is just in a 4l, damage wise though. Inc AOE might help keep bosses in range a bit longer, but isn't really necessary - typically bosses are wither static, so it doesn't matter, or mobile in which case aoe doesn't help either!

Atziri boots are good, but temple boots can get spell dodge, or attack dodge which may be more valuable, plus potentially higher life, resists and can be crafted. If you don't need resists, they are always a good option though.

You can drop the trap if you are purely mapping, and/or when your single target on storm brand is good enough to not need the traps. Yours isn't really there yet. For normal(Non Phased) bosses and syndicate encounters you could put in a vaal storm call setup instead? It's just no good for the endgame bosses.
I've dropped the pseudo 6l gloves for Fenumus Weave. I'm still running the trap as a 4l though for a bit of extra spike damage.


Jewels, OK, point taken.
When I get home I respec out double curse, get rid of curse on hit. 5free points will straight go to more life /mana. I'll replace my current weapon with this one:

Put in it lightning herald, flame dash and reduced duration for flame dash or l2 enlighten (don't have l3 now).
Then I put in the gloves increased duration for immortal call and phase walk in the gloves. Also will change the gloves to something like this :

Need to fossil craft them properly.

Edit: just flash of insight. Drop the trap. Put spell totem, multiple totems, arc+x in the helm for bosses. Of course put enlighten in the weapon.
Last edited by Banev#5008 on Jan 30, 2019, 9:44:24 AM
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Banev wrote:
Jewels, OK, point taken.
When I get home I respec out double curse, get rid of curse on hit. 5free points will straight go to more life /mana. I'll replace my current weapon with this one:

Put in it lightning herald, flame dash and reduced duration for flame dash or l2 enlighten (don't have l3 now).
Then I put in the gloves increased duration for immortal call and phase walk in the gloves. Also will change the gloves to something like this :

Need to fossil craft them properly.



If you can't get the extra chaos damage mod, you still want lightning spell damage and added lightning on the weapon. That dagger only has cast speed going for it and not much else.

The first one is my current weapon, while the other one is what I used when I was in my 80s. I had two other weapons between them, with my prevous just having less chaos damage and no double-damage mod.



Last edited by Bioness#7668 on Jan 30, 2019, 9:44:10 AM
Thoughts on arc totem setup in the helm? See edit on my previous post.
Some other weapon option:
The extra curse passive is definitely worth it, and i noticed an increase in survivability probably cause of all the endurance charges. If you're in the 90's, theres enough flexbility to grab it.

Getting +1 curse on the amulet or chest would be ideal except that you probably wont find one that isnt complete garbo.
I have made some adjustions.
First, respecced out of scion life tree, but kept double curse. Simply because Idont know what to do with the herald. Enlighten and something would be good. My life is now ~5k, unreserved mana 1.7k .
New weapon:

The posion mod is not good, I know, but all other mods seem decent. And with the dagger I can finally drop shield charge and use whriling blades, I find them more convinient.
Next thing, I've dropped lightning spire trap and put in Vaal Storm Call+Elemental Focus. Or I can put increased duration in. I'll see how it goes.
ALso new Hypnotic Eye jewel in the belt.

Last edited by Banev#5008 on Jan 30, 2019, 1:37:56 PM

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