Hatred

I think you should change queslity bonus to something more cool. 20% quality and 10% radius? NO THX.

GCP are rare and expensive - they should IMPROVE skillgems - 10% radius is something that 99,99% players even dont notice.

This applies to all auras and most of other skillgems.

Dont make GCP and quality mandatory but give me something that i can even barely notice when i use this GCP or i i get extremely lucky quality gem drop (i think thay are more rare thn uniques).

Also im preety dissapointed that auras are so generic, they are even more generic that most D2 Paladin auras.

This currently gives me 1000 cold dmg
If i grab the "Ice Bite" Passive (+45% increased Cold Damage with Weapons )
Comes out to 1200 cold dmg not 1450.
Is this working as intended ? or are there some bad math issues ?

The Ice Bite node does seem a bit off with the Hatred aura, I'll check it out tomorrow so I can stave this.

Cold damage before Hatred is active.



Cold damage after Hatred is active.

After Hatred, average is 605, before Hatred, average is 35. Thus, the average cold damage increase per hit due to Hatred's effect is 570 damage.

The Physical component of my Cleave has an average of 1756.5 damage. If we calculate Hatred's skill gem effect and the Ice Bite passive node's effect, the cold damage should come to an average of 637 (rounded up):

1756.5 * (0.25*1.45) = 636.73125

It doesn't look like a whole lot of difference but in the long term, it can be.

EDIT: Oh right, I also forgot that I have 46% increased elemental weapon damage and the unique boots that give me 10% MORE elemental damage. I'd like some clarification on these calculations.

Isn't it supposed to be (1756.5 * (0.25 * (1.45 + 0.46))) * 1.1 = 922.60?

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Kabraxis wrote:

I think you should change queslity bonus to something more cool. 20% quality and 10% radius? NO THX.

GCP are rare and expensive - they should IMPROVE skillgems - 10% radius is something that 99,99% players even dont notice.

This applies to all auras and most of other skillgems.

Dont make GCP and quality mandatory but give me something that i can even barely notice when i use this GCP or i i get extremely lucky quality gem drop (i think thay are more rare thn uniques).

Also im preety dissapointed that auras are so generic, they are even more generic that most D2 Paladin auras.

I must be the 0.01% then, because I like the aura radius increase. Although, a bonus to stats would be nice too, at least on certain gems. Maybe share the wealth between improving stats and improving the aura.

My AoF Marauder uses the AoF Keystone, because he is an AoF Marauder.
The Keystone says "all physical to fire" and my physical dmg of all attacks is 0. Its okay, its allright.

If i switch on the aura my dmg is increased even though my physical is 0.
So your calculations are wrong, Karakhonor. The aura increase is for the local weapon dmg, like a support gem linked to a skillgem.

To calc your benefit of the aura you need your raw weapondmg through gear (i.e. rings or amu with 1-3phys) and your weapon.

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Mark_GGG wrote:

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eldragon0 wrote:

This currently gives me 1000 cold dmg
If i grab the "Ice Bite" Passive (+45% increased Cold Damage with Weapons )
Comes out to 1200 cold dmg not 1450.
Is this working as intended ? or are there some bad math issues ?

When you say it gives you 1000 cold damage, where are you getting that value from?

I use this with flicker strike. When I go to my char screen i go from 0 cold dmg to 1000 cold damage when turning it on.

This skill is almost certainly too strong. The damage should be decreased to less than 70% of current values, and the reserve should go up to 40% (even though I love using it in it's powerful state).

This is the only aura that I've said that about, but I'd say it's true.

It does also seem to calculate damage in a strange way. Certainly doesn't seem to add 20% from final physical damage, but more 20% at an earlier point or something. I could be wrong.

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eldragon0 wrote:

This currently gives me 1000 cold dmg
If i grab the "Ice Bite" Passive (+45% increased Cold Damage with Weapons )
Comes out to 1200 cold dmg not 1450.
Is this working as intended ? or are there some bad math issues ?

I think this is because hatred is affected by other bonuses than just ice bite. Not only could you have some other elemental, elemental weapon damage, or cold damage modifiers somewhere, but I think it's possible even physical weapon damage modifiers may affect this.

It's a bit hard to explain why this is but I can try:

base damage is 100 physical.
player has passives and strength increasing base damage by and additional 150%.
Instead of hatred dealing 20% of 250, then multiplying by 1.45 (+45%), it will deal 20% of 100, then multiply that by 2.95 (45%+150%)
This means the damage dealt is 59 as opposed to 72.5

That alone might not be enough to explain why you have a difference in values (if the mechanics even work like that), but if you also had some other passives or mods on items that buffed it, then it could account for the change.