[3.10] From League Starter to Shaper – Cheap, Tanky, Fast and Fun Physical ST – Very Detailed Guide

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Bystander36 wrote:
Have you done any attempts on Uber Elder? I'm curious as to your thoughts. I just managed to kill the Shaper (first char to get to the Shaper, kudos on build), and now I'm facing Uber Elder, or at least, he's popped in the center of my map. I'm taking advantage of the elder area to farm for now, and leaving up the guardians to help that until I decide I have a chance to beat Uber Elder. Shaper seemed to be everything I could handle, I'm really not feeling like facing him and the Elder at the same time would be a fun time. What has been your experience?


I'm currently playing a different build on Bestiary so I haven't tried Uber Elder with this. Shaper or Elder on their own are not a problem. Both of them together I really couldn't say.

Experience with a fight is very important. The first time it may not go as planned because you don't know how to react to everything. Since you already got Uber on your atlas I'd say go for it. Maybe think about getting a support with you too.

From League Starter to Shaper – Cheap, Tanky, Fast and Fun Physical ST – Very Detailed Guide
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Greetings! I just wanted to say that I am a returning player...who remembered next to nothing about the game, and I found your build and guide to be IMMENSELY helpful! It has been a blast to play and the guide is extremely well written. Cheers man!

I'm having trouble getting my damage/defense up though. I'm running into some trouble on Tier 9/10 maps...and I'm struggling for currency to buy better gear. Would you mind taking a peek at my gear and helping me decide where to upgrade first? I'm pretty casual and have yet to get any big ticket drops to sell!

I've posted my gear below and I'm not sure where I should focus first to upgrade given my limited currency and buying power. I did get lucky and buy a Belly cheap and then massively lucked out to 6L it with only 45 fusings! You can ignore the IIR gem, I was using it for fun earlier, I usually have the suggested critical gem in there.

6L with 45 fuses, that must be some kind of record :P If you're very low on money and don't think you'll earn much because you play casually selling that could be an option. You'd make 5ex and you can buy a 6L chest with 130 life 80 res for about 100c. It won't give you as much life as the belly but you'd have 3-4ex left to buy gear.

The first thing you need to do is get a new helmet and belt. The spectral throw damage enchant is the only good thing about the Geofri's for this build. A helmet with 100+ life 80+ res is currently 5-10c. The Doryani's has res but no life on it. A belt with 100+ life 80+ res is 1c.

The Carnage Heart is good for leveling but you should get a good rare now that you're in maps.

Get life on all your jewels.

Finally why aren't you using Atziri's promise ? It's 1c and gives you a lot of chaos damage which is very useful.

With all that your life should increase substantially. The flask and quality on your gems will also increase your damage.
From League Starter to Shaper – Cheap, Tanky, Fast and Fun Physical ST – Very Detailed Guide
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Last edited by Aias_o_Telamonios#0275 on Apr 5, 2018, 8:34:57 AM
Hello, I have a question concerning weapons. Isn't it better to use 1x Gemini Claw along with the Scourge Claw? I got a 300 top dmg gemini claw with 1.90 attacks per second + it got flat 38 hp per hit and 16 mana per hit.
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ViciousDump wrote:
Hello, I have a question concerning weapons. Isn't it better to use 1x Gemini Claw along with the Scourge Claw? I got a 300 top dmg gemini claw with 1.90 attacks per second + it got flat 38 hp per hit and 16 mana per hit.


I'm curious about this mechanic. After using PoB, I learned that DW in game does not show correct information. It treats the damage as if each hit adds up both weapons damage, but PoB does not. It is apparent that you actually take turns hitting with each weapon, I have also noticed that some stats do get added to both attacks, but not the base damage at least.

Maybe someone more knowledgeable than my can answer this. Does the leech and +HP on hit get added to both weapon attacks? What bonuses on the weapons get applied to attacks with either weapon, and what does not?
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ViciousDump wrote:
Hello, I have a question concerning weapons. Isn't it better to use 1x Gemini Claw along with the Scourge Claw? I got a 300 top dmg gemini claw with 1.90 attacks per second + it got flat 38 hp per hit and 16 mana per hit.


I don't think it would be better. As you progress in the game (higher levels, better gear) % leech becomes better than "gain on hit". Especially when you are fighting bosses. You'd have a hell of a time gaining enough health while hitting only one boss.

Also a 300 pDPS claw (not sure if your claw is pure phys) is slightly worse than a scourge. Read the weapons section of the guide.

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Bystander36 wrote:
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ViciousDump wrote:
Hello, I have a question concerning weapons. Isn't it better to use 1x Gemini Claw along with the Scourge Claw? I got a 300 top dmg gemini claw with 1.90 attacks per second + it got flat 38 hp per hit and 16 mana per hit.


I'm curious about this mechanic. After using PoB, I learned that DW in game does not show correct information. It treats the damage as if each hit adds up both weapons damage, but PoB does not. It is apparent that you actually take turns hitting with each weapon, I have also noticed that some stats do get added to both attacks, but not the base damage at least.

Maybe someone more knowledgeable than my can answer this. Does the leech and +HP on hit get added to both weapon attacks? What bonuses on the weapons get applied to attacks with either weapon, and what does not?


GGG is notoriously inconsistent on the wording of items. Claw implicits don't state "with this weapon" so they should apply to all attacks with any weapon. But as I said this is not certain.
From League Starter to Shaper – Cheap, Tanky, Fast and Fun Physical ST – Very Detailed Guide
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I have tested both and i significally increase my damage on both bosses, and aoe farming maps wth my rareclaw. I'm lvl 90 now so it's already getting pretty lategame, my claw is about 400 dps and it's a terrorclaw which is 2% physical leech. I just wonder whats the reason for the dual scourge claw, currently clearing tier 11-13 with ease
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ViciousDump wrote:
Hello, I have a question concerning weapons. Isn't it better to use 1x Gemini Claw along with the Scourge Claw? I got a 300 top dmg gemini claw with 1.90 attacks per second + it got flat 38 hp per hit and 16 mana per hit.


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ViciousDump wrote:
I have tested both and i significally increase my damage on both bosses, and aoe farming maps wth my rareclaw. I'm lvl 90 now so it's already getting pretty lategame, my claw is about 400 dps and it's a terrorclaw which is 2% physical leech. I just wonder whats the reason for the dual scourge claw, currently clearing tier 11-13 with ease


First message : 300 dps gemini (life on hit)
Second message: 400 dps terror (leech)
So which is it ?

I told you to check the weapons section. If you did you'd have seen that a 400 dps claw is better than the scourge. The reason that I recommend scourges is because they're very good for their price. If you want better you're gonna have to spend a lot of money to get them.
From League Starter to Shaper – Cheap, Tanky, Fast and Fun Physical ST – Very Detailed Guide
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2077519

Gannicus, God of the Arena – Deathless Uber Elder for Everyone
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Hi,
I spent like 20 hours or so on the game so I'm totally new. I strictly follow your guide but somehow found myself easy to kill in boss stage. I'm at Act 6, it works pretty fine with trash mobs but I alway died to boss at least 2-3 times. Can you please look at my gear and point out where is my mistake? Tyvm.
Last edited by gideros9742#1333 on Apr 6, 2018, 4:43:02 AM
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gideros9742 wrote:
Hi,
I spent like 20 hours or so on the game so I'm totally new. I strictly follow your guide but somehow found myself easy to kill in boss stage. I'm at Act 6, it works pretty fine with trash mobs but I alway died to boss at least 2-3 times. Can you please look at my gear and point out where is my mistake? Tyvm.


Dying a couple of times to a boss is not a problem at that stage. Just keep leveling and you'll improve. Your lack of knowledge of the game also plays a part in that. You can try going a little slower if you're having trouble. For the fastest leveling you need to be 3 levels under but in your case I'd stick to being overlevel to make things easier.

Can't look at your chars because they're private.
From League Starter to Shaper – Cheap, Tanky, Fast and Fun Physical ST – Very Detailed Guide
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