[3.10] From League Starter to Shaper – Cheap, Tanky, Fast and Fun Physical ST – Very Detailed Guide

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Aias_o_Telamonios wrote:
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Lapsi wrote:
Nice build am enjoying for the first time after playing 3 league. Also first char ever that I want to keep leveling after 80. I have been doing all the maps till T9 and was great but now I just started playing T10 maps Wasteland havent tried others as I need to buy them no drops. What I notice was, it took quite a time for me to kill VOLL the dried lake boss at T10 map. ADDS are fine I can easily clear but the boss single target DPS is maybe low for me. So if anyone could guide how I can improve my char that would be great.



Depending on the mods Voll can be annoying because of his high regen. Were you using slower projectiles ?
Also you gear is ok but there is a lot of room for improvement. For example your amulet. Check the gear section and slowly upgrade according to your budget. Also don't forget to put down the totem to gain attack speed.

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ProrokPyro wrote:
Hey, may I use Bloodseekers claw with this build?


I'm not sure how that last mod would work with Slayer leech. It's like the old VP which essentially canceled the endless leech and made Slayer useless. I suppose you can try but I have a feeling they won't be good because of that.

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Lupofin wrote:
Hi, In what order should I buy the upgrades? Just recently hit maps and idk what to upgrade first, weapons, chest, gloves maybe flasks etc


That depends on your current needs and budget. My personal preference is to start upgrading from the armour and leave the jewellery for last.


Tried bloodseekers, well it's harder to play than in your setup. Another question, Instead which gem I can use faster projectiles? Or just leave it as it is?
Don't use FP especially if you have PB.
From League Starter to Shaper – Cheap, Tanky, Fast and Fun Physical ST – Very Detailed Guide
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skyoan32 wrote:
Hey,

Very nice guide here. Was looking for a futur reroll this league.
What do you think about this build as ascendant Slayer/Raider ? Didn't do any maths but should be on par (with some added pros)


Hi there,

Love your guide. I have been able to kill normal Elder, do uber labs, kill 2 guardians (of shaper) so far. However, embarrassingly, I can't seem to get past Phoenix. I get one-shot even if I dodge (sometimes lag kills me). I thought my fire resistance was enough and I am using a ruby flask.

Current fire resist is 75% (89%) but I just can't get past this one guardian. Chimera is supposed to be the hardest (according to what I read) but managed to kill him after dying twice.

I also use Slower projectiles gem during the phoenix fight. Gem level is 17. Not sure if that is good enough. Haven't used the forum before so I hope you will be able to view my gear on my profile.

Any advice you have for me will be greatly appreciated. :)
Updated gear:

Spoiler


Now sitting on 5.8 health. Probably need to replace the rings? Damage is superb. How do the claws work with socketed gems though? They read "increases and modifiers to minion damage also affects you", but socketing Minion Damage jewels hadn't affected me from what I've seen, judging by the tooltip. How do I maximize the effect? Kudos to you!

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Veraclus wrote:
Hi there,

Love your guide. I have been able to kill normal Elder, do uber labs, kill 2 guardians (of shaper) so far. However, embarrassingly, I can't seem to get past Phoenix. I get one-shot even if I dodge (sometimes lag kills me). I thought my fire resistance was enough and I am using a ruby flask.

Current fire resist is 75% (89%) but I just can't get past this one guardian. Chimera is supposed to be the hardest (according to what I read) but managed to kill him after dying twice.

I also use Slower projectiles gem during the phoenix fight. Gem level is 17. Not sure if that is good enough. Haven't used the forum before so I hope you will be able to view my gear on my profile.

Any advice you have for me will be greatly appreciated. :)


Which guardian is the hardest depends on the build. For this build, Phoenix is the hardest. You should do him with GMP and not SP. Avoid the cyclone and of course avoid the explosion. See the video section to get an idea on how to fight him. He's the only one you shouldn't tank.

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ArtCrusade wrote:
Updated gear:

Spoiler


Now sitting on 5.8 health. Probably need to replace the rings? Damage is superb. How do the claws work with socketed gems though? They read "increases and modifiers to minion damage also affects you", but socketing Minion Damage jewels hadn't affected me from what I've seen, judging by the tooltip. How do I maximize the effect? Kudos to you!



Minion damage jewels give you damage. Random gems unlinked to your skill don't.
If you socket a random added fire gem in your boots will it help your damage ? Of course not. Why would socketing it in your claws be any different?
From League Starter to Shaper – Cheap, Tanky, Fast and Fun Physical ST – Very Detailed Guide
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2077519

Gannicus, God of the Arena – Deathless Uber Elder for Everyone
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2627521
Last edited by Aias_o_Telamonios#0275 on Mar 26, 2018, 1:47:27 PM

Thanks for the detailed write up! Easy to follow for a PoE novice like myself. Enjoying the build so far, though I need to start dabbling in the market to upgrade my gear.
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Khatmandu wrote:

Thanks for the detailed write up! Easy to follow for a PoE novice like myself. Enjoying the build so far, though I need to start dabbling in the market to upgrade my gear.


I'm glad you like it. Yes, although you can make this build as SSF, it's a lot better if you buy the stuff you need. Unfortunately trading is a big part of PoE.
From League Starter to Shaper – Cheap, Tanky, Fast and Fun Physical ST – Very Detailed Guide
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2077519

Gannicus, God of the Arena – Deathless Uber Elder for Everyone
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2627521
Last edited by Aias_o_Telamonios#0275 on Mar 27, 2018, 6:25:35 PM
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Aias_o_Telamonios wrote:

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ProrokPyro wrote:
Hey, may I use Bloodseekers claw with this build?


I'm not sure how that last mod would work with Slayer leech. It's like the old VP which essentially canceled the endless leech and made Slayer useless. I suppose you can try but I have a feeling they won't be good because of that.


I'm curious, what about 1 Scourge + 1 Bloodseeker? Wouldn't that still allow for endless leech from one weapon and instant leech from another? Not sure if it's worth trading half the leech amount over time for instant leech, gonna give it a try i guess.
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Boogy wrote:
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Aias_o_Telamonios wrote:

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ProrokPyro wrote:
Hey, may I use Bloodseekers claw with this build?


I'm not sure how that last mod would work with Slayer leech. It's like the old VP which essentially canceled the endless leech and made Slayer useless. I suppose you can try but I have a feeling they won't be good because of that.


I'm curious, what about 1 Scourge + 1 Bloodseeker? Wouldn't that still allow for endless leech from one weapon and instant leech from another? Not sure if it's worth trading half the leech amount over time for instant leech, gonna give it a try i guess.


If we assume both claws would leech the same (which they won't because the bloodseeker is lower DPS) then half your leech would be applied instantly (thus it would be lost because you'd already be at full health) and half would be applied slayer-style. So you'd be cutting your leech duration with all its benefits in half.

Seriously, the bloodseeker just like the old VP is not compatible with Slayer.
From League Starter to Shaper – Cheap, Tanky, Fast and Fun Physical ST – Very Detailed Guide
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2077519

Gannicus, God of the Arena – Deathless Uber Elder for Everyone
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2627521

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