[3.2] AVP - Abyssal Volatile Poet || Now with MF option

Hey just wanted to stop in and say thanks for the build.

Was not sure the best way to go for the abyssal set but now I am level 69 with no sign of stopping.

Tons of fun

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Budacek wrote:

I just wanted to thank you for this build! I really like abyss jewels and was looking for a build that uses all the abyss jewels in the world. Also one of the easiest and most fun way to level up when u can play your build somewhere from lvl 16. Started this build yesterday and already killed red elder today really easily. Probably the most fun i had since the first time i played fakener back than. Great guide and amazing build concept! Cheers

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admiralchong wrote:

Hey just wanted to stop in and say thanks for the build.

Was not sure the best way to go for the abyssal set but now I am level 69 with no sign of stopping.

Tons of fun

I really appreciate that you are enjoying this build.
I updated in the meantime the guide with a section regarding the MF option, which is a luxury setup for farming maps in the most efficient way.
Probably tomorrow I will post some screenshots with the MF setup and a PoB link.

Hello ! Quick question, do we really need quality on gems in poet's pen, when they give speed cast ?
(Unearth / Body Swap). As we don't cast them ourselves I was thinking it was not adding anything, but I see most of you guys with 20%q gems on those one.
As I'm trying to get some lvl 21 gems, having 21/0% or 21/20% make a big price difference, and I just want to be sure that I'm not wasting exalts for nothing.
Thanks for your answer !

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Alio wrote:

Hello ! Quick question, do we really need quality on gems in poet's pen, when they give speed cast ?
(Unearth / Body Swap). As we don't cast them ourselves I was thinking it was not adding anything, but I see most of you guys with 20%q gems on those one.
As I'm trying to get some lvl 21 gems, having 21/0% or 21/20% make a big price difference, and I just want to be sure that I'm not wasting exalts for nothing.
Thanks for your answer !

You are right, the cast bonus bonus is totally useless for our build and you do not need it.
I personally just like having 20/20 or 21/20 gems, this way I can also use them in other builds if I want to selfcast.

Ok so I'm playing with the build since 2 days now, and I'm having quite some fun !
I made a few adjustments :
- replaced GMP with LMP as we can produce only up to 3 corpses with volatile dead, so in the rotation, you won't be able to produce more than 3 balls with unearth (so LMP is better to reduce the dmg nerf).
- I tried to play without Warlord's Mark, just using a 0,6% leech on my boots, and it's work perfectly well. It's make things easier to play without a Elder ring (as I'm struggling with resist and life with all those Abyss armors). I don't feel that 3 endurance charge worth the investment with this ring, except if you manage to get a really good one obviously.
- I replaced the evasion flask with a double physical dmg reduce combo (as we'are very low on evasion, it didn't help much)
- I added an additional Herald (Lightning) as I feel that I really can use a bit more of our mana, as the cost of frenzy is nothing, and MoM will do just fine, with a bit smaller mana pool.
- I'm having issue with hit chance, we don't have accuracy at all, so my frenzy have 56% chance to hit, that's really low, especially when you want to crit with it. I'm still trying to see how to fix that, possibly replacing the crit chance gem with an accuracy one. How do you deal with this ?
Edit : ok so I just replaced the GMP of frenzy by additional accuracy and it feels ok, maybe that's the best way to deal with our low hit %

Here is my actual stuff

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- replaced GMP with LMP as we can produce only up to 3 corpses with volatile dead, so in the rotation, you won't be able to produce more than 3 balls with unearth (so LMP is better to reduce the dmg nerf).

As long as you do not have the helm enchant, there's no problem using LMP. But in reality the only downside of using GMP is the damage penalty, which doesn't affect our build at all, since we do not focus on scaling Unearth damage and even with GMP I often kill white mobs just with it. So I prefer having a more reliable and spread out corpse generation.

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- I tried to play without Warlord's Mark, just using a 0,6% leech on my boots, and it's work perfectly well. It's make things easier to play without a Elder ring (as I'm struggling with resist and life with all those Abyss armors). I don't feel that 3 endurance charge worth the investment with this ring, except if you manage to get a really good one obviously.

The leech from boots is active only while clearing, which is fine if you just want to run maps. If you actually want to farm endgame contents like uber lab, shaper, guardians, elder, normal and uber atziri and so on, you need a reliable source of leech, which is up 100% of the time, no matter what.

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- I replaced the evasion flask with a double physical dmg reduce combo (as we'are very low on evasion, it didn't help much)

The Stibnite flask is not used to boost the evasion, but to blind enemies (50% chance to avoid hits, multiplicative with evasion) which is like the best defense against most of the new abyssal monsters. Anyway using a Basalt is a good choice too, but just mitigates physical hits, while blind helps you also against elemental attacks (which are pretty common when you run maps with x% extra damage as an element).

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- I added an additional Herald (Lightning) as I feel that I really can use a bit more of our mana, as the cost of frenzy is nothing, and MoM will do just fine, with a bit smaller mana pool.

Yeah that's fine, I do not feel like you need more damage though. I believe it's better to use one herald and arctic armour, if you actually want to reserve more mana.

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- I'm having issue with hit chance, we don't have accuracy at all, so my frenzy have 56% chance to hit, that's really low, especially when you want to crit with it. I'm still trying to see how to fix that, possibly replacing the crit chance gem with an accuracy one. How do you deal with this ?

The "easiest" fix is to use rings/amulet with a good accuracy roll, though that's not really needed.
The cremation choice fits in that setup so well for so many reasons.
One of the best part of cremation is the duration, it lasts 8s and at most you can have three of them active, which meand that you do not have to always crit to make use of its damage.
You do not really need cremation damage while clearing, you may need it against bosses.
In that case we attack almost 4 times per second, even with 50% chance to hit and something like 70% effective crit chance, we are gonna crit probably at least once per second. Which means that, in the worst case scenario, in 3 seconds we already have all the cremation damage available; then you have 8 more seconds to crit 3 more times, to refresh them. Moreover most bosses die way faster.

Thanks for your detailed answer, everything make sense :)

Really interesting build, i wanna tried it but the only item i cannot afford is the Shroud of the Lightless armour, there are any replacement for it? Or its destroy the concept of the build? Ty!

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alamodeg wrote:

Really interesting build, i wanna tried it but the only item i cannot afford is the Shroud of the Lightless armour, there are any replacement for it? Or its destroy the concept of the build? Ty!

The Shroud is really good for this build, since it gives you lots of life and mana, plus another abyssal socket and a pseudo 6-link.
You can definitely play without it though, you have many "standard" choices like a Carcass Jack (for damage) or a Belly of the Beast (for more life). Or you can just use a Tabula Rasa, you are going to lose a good amount of life, but it's really cheap, it's a 6-link (do you can play around with all the gems you like and try different setups) and gets you started with the build.

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lallalaus wrote:

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alamodeg wrote:

Really interesting build, i wanna tried it but the only item i cannot afford is the Shroud of the Lightless armour, there are any replacement for it? Or its destroy the concept of the build? Ty!

The Shroud is really good for this build, since it gives you lots of life and mana, plus another abyssal socket and a pseudo 6-link.
You can definitely play without it though, you have many "standard" choices like a Carcass Jack (for damage) or a Belly of the Beast (for more life). Or you can just use a Tabula Rasa, you are going to lose a good amount of life, but it's really cheap, it's a 6-link (do you can play around with all the gems you like and try different setups) and gets you started with the build.

Ty for the reply sir! I have another question. I really like the build(the abyss set is so sexy), its obvious that its excels in damage,but how about de survivability? I mean the idea to get resis, flat life on abyss is pretty new for me, but i dont want to be 1 or 2 shooted.. with mobs or bosses.Its not a super cheap in my case despite i can buy almost all items except chest.Worth the "investment"? I know atziri and ubber its out cause of the balls but the other content?? The armour seems very low.