(3.2) Leary's Auramancer (Low and High-end Summoner, under reconstruction ) w. Beginner guide

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leary93 wrote:
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chockdoo wrote:
What about swapping in Proj-weakness instead of temp chain and then get tempchain-gloves and a +1curse amulet ? If running sentinels i mean, why not ? massive damage-multiplier, knockback and piercing for sentinels. Should be pretty badass!!
Possibly tempest shield aswell to trigger EE, even though we are kinda short on sockets allready..hmm..


Ugh U dont want temp chain gloves. U also dont want proj weakness, I mean, its too unreliable and u dont need the damage, plus pierce is bad for fireball.

Also ugh tempest shield to proc ee. U dont want to take any dmg. U want ur minions to take damage. And it takes a socket. Sockets are way more valuable than an unreliable way to trigger EE. There's golems, Vaal skills, animate guardian, movement skills, fortify on movement skills. Faster attacks on movement skills. Skeleton totem, cwdt taken immortal call. 4link CWC setup for something like Wither/SR - cwc - Desc - offering (prob spirit, cuz flesh offering doesnt need to constantly pop), like, tempest shield isnt even remotely near useful.

" it all depends on what you are going to use for ammy and gloves.. those two slots tend to be very important too summoners for making up stats and resist deficiencies "

This. Gloves and amulet are one of the few defensive slots we are left with, we kinda want stats from our ammy. Finding good gloves/ammy is already hard, let's not make it harder, and just try to get those +1 corrupted gloves for our enhanced curses instead. Probably more valuable


If the spectres dont need the damage, why not run them in a 4-link-gloves and save 2 sockets ?
I mean, enhanced proj-weakness is like 1,5 added "damage-skillgems"
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chockdoo wrote:
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leary93 wrote:
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chockdoo wrote:
What about swapping in Proj-weakness instead of temp chain and then get tempchain-gloves and a +1curse amulet ? If running sentinels i mean, why not ? massive damage-multiplier, knockback and piercing for sentinels. Should be pretty badass!!
Possibly tempest shield aswell to trigger EE, even though we are kinda short on sockets allready..hmm..


Ugh U dont want temp chain gloves. U also dont want proj weakness, I mean, its too unreliable and u dont need the damage, plus pierce is bad for fireball.

Also ugh tempest shield to proc ee. U dont want to take any dmg. U want ur minions to take damage. And it takes a socket. Sockets are way more valuable than an unreliable way to trigger EE. There's golems, Vaal skills, animate guardian, movement skills, fortify on movement skills. Faster attacks on movement skills. Skeleton totem, cwdt taken immortal call. 4link CWC setup for something like Wither/SR - cwc - Desc - offering (prob spirit, cuz flesh offering doesnt need to constantly pop), like, tempest shield isnt even remotely near useful.

" it all depends on what you are going to use for ammy and gloves.. those two slots tend to be very important too summoners for making up stats and resist deficiencies "

This. Gloves and amulet are one of the few defensive slots we are left with, we kinda want stats from our ammy. Finding good gloves/ammy is already hard, let's not make it harder, and just try to get those +1 corrupted gloves for our enhanced curses instead. Probably more valuable


If the spectres dont need the damage, why not run them in a 4-link-gloves and save 2 sockets ?
I mean, enhanced proj-weakness is like 1,5 added "damage-skillgems"


Because proj weakness is not 1.5 added damage skillgems because it is far less consistent, and u dont just lose sockets, u lose either mana reservation, or gloves, and an ammy corrupt. It's pretty fucking expensive. Blasphemy radius got nerfed, and thus it's strictly better to just use it for defensive buffs. Ohh, and maybe also relevant, it doesn't enhance your zombie's damage, and really, really sucks for bosses because fireballs will pierce the boss too often, and have nothing to explode off then.

EDIT: and probably the most fucking important reason: the reason i run this setup is for the enhanced temporal chains. Not having that reduces our survivability by way too much. And we can't run enfeeble on hit anywhere, plus enfeeble really helps us vs 3 out of the 4 guardians.

tl;dr Projectile weakness doesn't just cost a socket/reservation, it also has a boatload of opportunity cost reducing our defenses guaranteed. Putting our spectres in a 4link doesn't actually allow us to run more defenses, because we aren't that short on sockets.
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Last edited by leary93#3748 on Jul 9, 2017, 3:43:30 AM
I see your points, and will try out various alternatives when i get the chance.
Also, we don´t know what new mobs act9 and 10 will give us.

Have you tried frost sentinels in beta ?
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chockdoo wrote:
I see your points, and will try out various alternatives when i get the chance.
Also, we don´t know what new mobs act9 and 10 will give us.

Have you tried frost sentinels in beta ?


Ye but not fully. Something something hard to upgrade (cant desecrate bug them, really rare spawn chance) and mobs gaining like 50% more damage and hp per 10 lvls, so the difference between lvl 60 frost sentinels and lvl 75 flame sentinels is a bit too big in clearspeed.

Btw, I dont think I mentioned, but I have tried out proj weakness, vuln and ele weak back in breach league when I was running shaper/uber atziri and guardians, so just so you know im not just talking nonsense. And ye pretty hyped for a9/10 mobs already
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Im currently writing up the Spectre compendium in the second post, to be complemented by Spectre showcase videos, for example from my current spectre of the day showcase: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr1HAvqABto&t=2s

If you have any comments on this section, feel free to tell me
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Last edited by leary93#3748 on Jul 28, 2017, 6:07:43 AM
Hey leary,

I was wondering if we can do a collab. I like your video format of the spectre show cases. I tried doing these my self but covering every viable spectre types especially after 3.0 is going to be a daunting task.

Your videos will be inserted into the table of the unofficial minion wiki. I will attempt to cover anything you didn't.

https://github.com/Mattc33/Necronomicon/blob/master/UndeadLibrary.md



Necronomicon: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1617098
Build: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/409940
Summoner Dischord: https://discord.gg/XwWdSUa
Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/zhoukon
Last edited by mattc3303#7526 on Jul 28, 2017, 8:20:37 AM
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mattc3303 wrote:
Hey leary,

I was wondering if we can do a collab. I like your video format of the spectre show cases. I tried doing these my self but covering every viable spectre types especially after 3.0 is going to be a daunting task.

Your videos will be inserted into the table of the unofficial minion wiki. I will attempt to cover anything you didn't.

https://github.com/Mattc33/Necronomicon/blob/master/UndeadLibrary.md





Hiii, ye I saw that. It is completely fine for me to collab a bit. Ill be making videos on the new spectres in a series, but I also plan on putting videos on the old spectres in, probably along side in the next couple weeks. I am not that experienced with github, but I can let you know when I have videos ready so you can incorporate them. Ill also link to your guide in my thread btw, as it's quite nice formatted.
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No problem about the Github bit.

As long as you make the videos I can source it from your youtube channel. I was here asking for your permission ;).

Great content by the way. Definitely learned a great deal about auramancers and playing spectre in high level boss fights.
Necronomicon: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1617098
Build: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/409940
Summoner Dischord: https://discord.gg/XwWdSUa
Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/zhoukon
All this is way to confusing for me could someone please help me out with simplifying this build I just started playing 2 days ago on the xbox the controls are not as smooth so please keep that in mind for the build I want to use specters and other summoning spells like zombies I just don't know where to start I have been doing a lot of research but this is just very hard to grasp in just a few days. Also my last problem is I can only use 8 buttons for skills so having tons of auras may not work for me but I am not sure.
Last edited by AirsoftGuna#3671 on Jul 30, 2017, 3:29:14 AM
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AirsoftGuna wrote:
All this is way to confusing for me could someone please help me out with simplifying this build I just started playing 2 days ago on the xbox the controls are not as smooth so please keep that in mind for the build I want to use specters and other summoning spells like zombies I just don't know where to start I have been doing a lot of research but this is just very hard to grasp in just a few days. Also my last problem is I can only use 8 buttons for skills so having tons of auras may not work for me but I am not sure.


Well firstly on auras: u only need to turn them on once after u login/died. After that you can select a different skill in the slot u turned them on.

Secondly, the guide is not yet complete, and will include a full leveling guide and some cookie cutter version ranging from cheap to expensive and easy to hard to build.

Lastly: i havent played on xbox and wont, so I cant promise you will have an easy time playing a summoner there but will try my best to answers any problems that I can (given I didnt explain them anywhere in my guide)
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