Donald Trump and US politics

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Disrupted wrote:

I have to ask, are you in politics? I do not consider you stupid enough to not know which parts of what you wrote here are bullshit.
a lot of other posters in this thread absolutely are; you, I do not think so. I think you know what game you are playing.

Nope, not in politics. But It is politics, nobody would recommend it if you wish the best for America. If you really want to win and power monger, that is a whole different story.

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MrSmiley21 wrote:

They're burning all the evidence linking Trump to Russia collusion. Just to keep the people's press, CNN, from getting their hands on the evidence. This proves Russian collusion, 100%.

There is evidences to suggest Russia did help Trump but only because they don't like Hillary. Only to found out they don't like Trump either. America's relationship with Russia is bad and deteriorating. Funny in a way.

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

tfw you realize most of /pol/ is lefties doing the same shit

To some extent, yeah, but most would be an exaggeration. The whole God Emperor, Pepe, meme thing has actually been a boon for the far right. Far right wing ideology wasn't getting much exposure to youth, until a few years ago. Previously, it was mostly targeted to disillusioned Reaganite boomers.

I do think a lot of the ones pushing Nazism on the internet are probably trolls. It's a total and complete non-starter in America, regardless of who the audience is. I don't really see what the left thinks they have to fear from people dressing up as clowns waving around swastikas? This isn't the 1930s-40s, anymore. It has zero chance of legitimate political success. 0.00000000000%. Talking about trying to silence a fringe group that has zero chance of political success is skirting a similar realm of stupidity. By silencing them, you're giving them more credibility than they'd otherwise have in a free and open exchange of ideas.

I legitimately suffer from some mental health issues, but paranoia isn't one of them. This imaginary notion that so many people share the ideology of people who're demonstrably clowns (Nazis), is truly pushing paranoid/delusional complex to its limits. There is no grey area between being extremely nutty, or being a troll. Trolls prey on the paranoid. Because it has entertainment value.

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deathflower wrote:

There is evidences to suggest Russia did help Trump but only because they don't like Hillary. Only to found out they don't like Trump either. America's relationship with Russia is bad and deteriorating. Funny in a way.

Honestly, this goes much to Trump's credit if he managed to sucker the Russians into believing that he was going to be any different towards them than the average Republican is. It's been a long standing policy to hate Russia, and anything Russian, ever since the start of the cold war, until now.

The Russians made a decision to take a gamble on the devil they don't know, because the devil they did know (Clinton) was an extremely terrible option. Trump makes them pay for this mistake by attacking their ally in Syria. And now the Russians look weak and stupid in Syria. With Trump being the strongman with big hands. Putin got played. Hillary would have been friendlier to the Russians than Trump has been.

The Russians could have simply bought Clinton off, and for considerably cheaper than the cost of buying off Trump, which would amount to a sky scraper in Moscow with a giant golden T mounted on it, a few blocks away from the new casino, which also has a golden T.

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MrSmiley21 wrote:

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

tfw you realize most of /pol/ is lefties doing the same shit

To some extent, yeah, but most would be an exaggeration. The whole God Emperor, Pepe, meme thing has actually been a boon for the far right. Far right wing ideology wasn't getting much exposure to youth, until a few years ago. Previously, it was mostly targeted to disillusioned Reaganite boomers.

I do think a lot of the ones pushing Nazism on the internet are probably trolls. It's a total and complete non-starter in America, regardless of who the audience is. I don't really see what the left thinks they have to fear from people dressing up as clowns waving around swastikas? This isn't the 1930s-40s, anymore. It has zero chance of legitimate political success. 0.00000000000%. Talking about trying to silence a fringe group that has zero chance of political success is skirting a similar realm of stupidity. By silencing them, you're giving them more credibility than they'd otherwise have in a free and open exchange of ideas.

I legitimately suffer from some mental health issues, but paranoia isn't one of them. This imaginary notion that so many people share the ideology of people who're demonstrably clowns (Nazis), is truly pushing paranoid/delusional complex to its limits. There is no grey area between being extremely nutty, or being a troll. Trolls prey on the paranoid. Because it has entertainment value.

I would say The Republican party moving from a pragmatic and conservative party to a more ideological, nationalist populist party in the image of Donald Trump. It would be more fruity.

Wall when , afghanistan why ? draining swamp where? paying NK any attention why? I for one am a hilldawg nao and sandersmissile - IMPEACH BOGLAN KRUMPFT 2 SCOOPS OF CHAOS ORBS!? STOP CLAPPING GOYIM , STOP!

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Kechop wrote:

Wall when , afghanistan why ? draining swamp where? paying NK any attention why? I for one am a hilldawg nao and sandersmissile - IMPEACH BOGLAN KRUMPFT 2 SCOOPS OF CHAOS ORBS!? STOP CLAPPING GOYIM , STOP!

From 1 to 10, how mentally stable are you?

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Xavderion wrote:

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Kechop wrote:

Wall when , afghanistan why ? draining swamp where? paying NK any attention why? I for one am a hilldawg nao and sandersmissile - IMPEACH BOGLAN KRUMPFT 2 SCOOPS OF CHAOS ORBS!? STOP CLAPPING GOYIM , STOP!

From 1 to 10: how mentally unstable this post is

FTFY

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deathflower wrote:

I would say The Republican party moving from a pragmatic and conservative party to a more ideological, nationalist populist party in the image of Donald Trump. It would be more fruity.

Conservatism, in the traditional American since, is a dying ideology. Most of its subscribers are old people who're dying off. Gen X and millennials aren't buying it. I consider Conservatism to be a boomer ideology. Classic Liberalism is also a boomer ideology, and the left has been co-opted by considerably more extreme leftists. I don't have that much of a problem with classic liberalism. It's preferable to what the left today offers.

The Republicans would have lost the last election running on a strict Conservative platform. Donald Trump is the only reason there is a Republican in the White House. Does anyone seriously think that a Jeb Bush, Ted Cruz, or Marco Rubio could have won? That type of platform isn't gonna win another presidential election.

What the polls don't really take into account is the real impact of things like approval ratings. They might say, well 41% approval rating for Trump is terrible! But what % of the 59% has a low approval rating for government, in general? Not approving of one side, doesn't mean they approve of the opposing side. Trump might still be considered the lesser of evils by a considerable portion of the 59% who don't approve of Trump. Poll #s by themselves, with no context, don't mean anything. Democrats might overplay their hand and assume low approval for Trump means that people support their agenda instead, and that would be completely erroneous. And could cost them more elections.

2018 will very much be a referendum on Trump's agenda, and if the Democrats lose more seats in the house and senate in 2018, then they'll know that the people disapprove of their agenda even more than they do Trump's. Then getting elected in 2020 will be who's the *least* unpopular. Every single trollish bone in my body will be giggling with excitement for many, many months if the Dems get routed in 2018. I mean, HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA - in anticipation. The snowflake liberals will have to eat that b....bu....but! Trump is unpopular! And look into a mirror and recognize that their agenda is even MORE unpopular.

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MrSmiley21 wrote:

What the polls don't really take into account is the real impact of things like approval ratings. They might say, well 41% approval rating for Trump is terrible! But what % of the 59% has a low approval rating for government, in general? Not approving of one side, doesn't mean they approve of the opposing side. Trump might still be considered the lesser of evils by a considerable portion of the 59% who don't approve of Trump. Poll #s by themselves, with no context, don't mean anything. Democrats might overplay their hand and assume low approval for Trump means that people support their agenda instead, and that would be completely erroneous. And could cost them more elections.

The most popular politician in the US is Bernie Sanders. Least popular are those on both sides of the swamp, like McConnell and Pelosi. Funnily, despite the 24/7 Trump-hate propaganda from the media, he has considerably better ratings than the swamp dwellers. I also assume that Clinton wouldn't've had much better ratings than Trump.

man.... the democrats are mad at Trump because his wife was wearing high heels they don't know what to invent anymore.