Donald Trump and US politics

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MrSmiley21 wrote:

The tolerant left strikes again:

http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/08/20/neo-nazi-haircut-anti-fascist-stabs-innocent-man-over

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A "confused anti-fascist" swung a knife towards the face of a man with a haircut similar to the one popular with white nationalists.

Joshua Witt, 26, was getting out of his car at Steak ’n Shake in Sheridan, Colorado when a man ran over to him yelling, "Are you one of them neo-Nazis?"

The man aimed for his head over his car door, but Witt blocked the blow with his hand, which needed three stitches.

“I threw my hands up and once the knife kind of hit, I dived back into my car and shut the door and watched him run off west, behind my car."

They let a haircut trigger them. I hope this person is charged with a hate crime.

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RandallPOE wrote:

What really happened is the guy bought a knife, accidentally cut himself with it and then invented the whole story because he was worried his insurance wouldn't pay up. How embarassing.

http://www.denverpost.com/2017/08/28/denver-area-arrest-neo-nazi-stabbing/

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

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RandallPOE wrote:

What really happened is the guy bought a knife, accidentally cut himself with it and then invented the whole story because he was worried his insurance wouldn't pay up. How embarassing.

http://www.denverpost.com/2017/08/28/denver-area-arrest-neo-nazi-stabbing/

Good catch.

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鬼殺し wrote:

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DalaiLama wrote:

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faerwin wrote:

Trump is about as centrist as a geiger counter in Chernobyl.

Since Geiger counters (those with needle gauges) normally lean left, are you suggesting that Trump is really just a leftie, triggered by all the negativity to become right?

http://sciencing.com/read-geiger-counter-5329248.html

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鬼殺し wrote:

Interestingly the needle would lean neither way, since it's not the indicator. The pulse sound is.

That's an incorrect interpretation of the article. "Read the visual readout, if there is one. Geiger counters that have meter readouts in CPM, that is, Counts or Clicks per Minute, mimic the audible clicks in visual form."

The needle moves to the right indicating the number of pulses.

I'm familiar with how Geiger counters work, having actually used one long ago. On the older non-digital style meters, the resting position of the needle is to the left hand side. If you have a rough idea of what you will be sampling, you adjust the sensitivity. If your needle is pegging to the right, it's the same as an audio meter clipping, and you are not getting an accurate measurement, so you lower the sensitivity. If you don't see much movement at all, your sensitivity is too low and you are losing information.

It isn't easy to count a rapid number of clicks, nor to try and track that number while you are counting. Hence the needle or numerical readout. The article says it mimics the clicks, but this isn't strictly true. Alhough it does not provide an exact count of the clicks, it provides the a rough average of the rate of clicks at any given moment. You can look at the numerical reading on the needle and then multiply it by the sensitivity setting.

https://youtu.be/LVoFLIn4zPM?t=475

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鬼殺し wrote:

OTOH this needle's moving right with activity.

https://youtu.be/GXwIzOalFo8

Hence what I stated: "Trump is really just a leftie, triggered by all the negativity to become right?" The negativity is the radioactivity.

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鬼殺し wrote:

Finally, this diagram confirms radioactive readings push the needle right, per faerwin's comparison.

http://atomic.lindahall.org/what-is-a-geiger-counter.html

Here's what the readings would likely look like at Chernobyl
Meter is reading millirems/hour 10 mrem = 100 microsieverts (µSv) levels taken from:http://chernobylgallery.com/chernobyl-disaster/radiation-levels/
(Between the Red lines = x 1 for most areas)
(Between blue lines = x 10 for the hot spots)
(Purple line = x 100 for the clean up claw)




IOW, the needle isn't normally to the right, but is pushed there, just as Trump was pushed to the right by the continuing debacle that the left has forced onto America to its detriment, as I alluded.

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鬼殺し wrote:

Faerwins point was sound even if the actual behaviour of a geiger counter doesn't fit it.

The geiger counter's behavior fits in perfectly. Whether the needle will be in the center, left or right depends more on the sensitivity setting. In other words, observer bias.

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鬼殺し wrote:

Trump is no centrist.

What modern people describe as centrist is actually extreme leftist. They have been actively redefining the terms through schools and media for over 30 years now, pushing it further every time they can. I'll put it very simply as a prediction - if the trend continues, the people on this forum that consider themselves very liberal, will find that they are considered extreme right wingers in 10-15 years by society.

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鬼殺し wrote:

This is weak pedantry at best.

I disagree. The assumption that Trump is far to the right is wrong, and the person I replied to used a bad analogy to illustrate a false assumption. That analogy better illustrates the truth, which is quite different from the assumption.



My interpretation stands. Trump is a centrist, and in fact slightly to the left, but he is also reactionary, and when pushed will move to the right. His history bears this out as well.

A centrist meter would look more like this anyways:

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ChanBalam wrote:

tick, tick tick

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Wraeclastian wrote:

Donald Trump will never be impeached or removed from office unless the left actually wants a new civil war.

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Jennik wrote:

What are the very real news sources you use to acquire the very factual information you always post that clearly isn't loaded with dishonest propaganda?