Donald Trump and US politics

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Kellog wrote:
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MrSmiley21 wrote:
I think he's guilty of vehicular manslaughter, but not 2nd degree murder, and most definitely not domestic terrorism.


How was this action any different to similar incidents that have been perpetrated throughout Europe. Let me guess, he isn't a 'brown' person!
Spot on!

The haters pretend that everyone else is just like them. It helps them feel good about their hate and that they are a normal part of the our society. That is why they provoke violence. They want to be able to shout, "See they are violent too; just like us." And they enjoy hurting other people.
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MrSmiley21 wrote:
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soneka101 wrote:

Well I don't know much about prison, but from what I understand by watching American History X and other movies, the safety of ones BH is not only up to them...


So you're an expert, my bad..

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And about the self-defense thing: Well, things can get messy, It's not impossible for something unexpected to happen, but if you think its worth the risk, then do your thing. Your life, your choices.


Not all of the protesters were neo-nazi and KKK. Most of them were college age people in their 20s and 30s who're just sick of the SJWs and PC bullshit. And this rally definitely didn't serve as an example to stifle future participation in rallies by said groups. If anything, this is just the beginning. The media has absolute 0 credibility among at least 50%+ of Americans.

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Nope, It's not like I signed to a newspaper with nazi and prison stuff reported on it. All I know comes from MSM outlets and twitter.


You missed my heavy dose of sarcasm. Prison nazis don't keep track of internet memes. But honestly, if I was in prison, and some prison nazis approached me and told me I should join for "protection", I wouldn't argue with them. When in Rome, do as the Romans do. That's a situation that's merely about personal survival, and not ideological. The ones who'd get their buttholes violated are the SJWs who'd verbally accost prison nazis for being nazis. Personally, I'd shut the fuck up and not give them any reason to do anything to me.

What I do know about prisons in the USA is they're extremely racially segregated. Blacks generally stick with other Blacks, Hispanics with other Hispanics, and yes, White people with other Whites. That's just how things are. How you get your butt cheeks spread out, is to go in there and think you can challenge it.

I haven't been to a penitentiary, but I have been in county jail a few times, as well as juvenile detention in my younger years. Nobody ever gave me any problems. And I never made problems for anyone else. Actually, I take that back. I did stick a spork in some kid's arm who thought he could take a piece of ham off my lunch tray. I was in there for 4 months, and people just called me spork.


But what if you are cute? What if the nazi leader has a thing for guys that paint themselves in green? You don't expect the nazi leader to have a "girlfriend" that is not white, do you? Someone will have to assuage the nazi boss sexual needs... What if the person he chooses is you spork?



Will you grab his pocket if he asks you to?
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Kellog wrote:

How was this action any different to similar incidents that have been perpetrated throughout Europe. Let me guess, he isn't a 'brown' person!


The difference is murderous intent, and simply overreacting to the situation because their car was getting hit with rocks and sticks by violent antifa protesters.

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soneka101 wrote:

But what if you are cute? What if the nazi leader has a thing for guys that paint themselves in green? You don't expect the nazi leader to have a "girlfriend" that is not white, do you? Someone will have to assuage the nazi boss sexual needs... What if the person he chooses is you spork?


Most prison systems in the USA allow conjugal visits. There are no shortage of females out there who like a good prison fuck. Big nazi boss probably has a different female show up for every conjugal visit. There are groupie followings that show up to service prison nazis. And if you're cool with the boss, he might be cool enough to have one of them pay you a visit. You'd honestly be surprised how well their sexual needs are taken care of.

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鬼殺し wrote:
Also on tablet.

You're reaching, DL. Doesn't suit you.

Sooner or later you're going to realise which side you're actually on. What it stands for. What drives it. What it wants.

I'm keeping a really comfy seat warm for you until that day. Whether you want it or not.


I'm not reaching, just reporting what is happening regarding various viewpoints. If anything is there, it's usually found within a few hours to a couple of days.

As for which side - I don't think the government should be telling us what to think, and I don't think people should be able to harm others or destroy their lives because they disagree with them.

I know a lot of people who participated in various marches against Trump, and with the exception of one, none of them are the Antifa type. I also know plenty of people who might agree with a viewpoint, but if someone tries to make them agree, they will turn 180 degrees and oppose it.

From what I understand, quite a few of the violent supremacist members are tracked, so there should be some police background into how many known threats attended this, and possibly which people attended with them.

We have seen previous attempts actively funded by Soros groups and headed by Robert Creamer with efforts made to incite violence at Trump rallies. The names of people and how much they were paid to fly to various cities is known - because the fools put it on the federal record to comply with election and tax laws. That the same groups might still be trying this tactic is not a reach at all. Whether it is true remains to be seen.

As Trump said, there were bad people on both sides of this.






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diablofdb wrote:
The "he lost the popular vote argument" is getting rather old.


Winning the popular vote and the electoral college by comfortable margins allows a president to assume he has the mandate of the people, and Congress will usually follow thinking that the voters have spoken very loudly.

Trump certainly won, but without the popular vote, Congress doesn't feel threatened enough to give in. If more than a few RINOs get primaried, the GOP side will flip like a fidget spinner to agree with Trump. If the voters don't show the Trump resisters the door, then the resistance will grow and Trump won't be able to get much of anything done.

To succeed, Trump must get the GOP onboard, and then negotiate with the opposing side to give them a few reasons to support his plans. I'm sure Abraham Lincoln didn't like it either, but he knew it was what he had to do to unify the country again. Just as in business, a good deal requires some compromise by both sides, and that both sides get something worthwhile out of the deal.

Where Trump could win is talking goals and outcomes first - get agreements on those, and then hammer out the methodologies. Doing things in a particular district that create decent jobs for instance.

PoE Origins - Piety's story http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2081910
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MrSmiley21 wrote:
Most prison systems in the USA allow conjugal visits. There are no shortage of females out there who like a good prison fuck.



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Nazi who organized the Charlottesville thing got chased out of town:

https://twitter.com/RogueCPI/status/896804821294088192

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Some of you guys were acting kinda dumb earlier. One made the argument: "we are the majority" and when someone said: "no, you are not, you lost the popular vote" you guys jumped into "But that doesn't mean that Trump didn't won!!1!".

That's dumb. Nobody is denying that Trump won, but it's a fact that he doesn't represent the majority. Just look at his approval ratings.

The majority of the U.S it's not in favor of the guys in Charlottesville. The majority of the US is white, but a whole lot of white people would hate to be seen as racist.

So yeah, I don't think that what happened in Charlottesville will spread throughout the country.

Systematic bias might be easy to maintain, but turning the whole country into racists is probably unachievable for those dudes wearing khakis and polo shirts.

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DalaiLama wrote:

Aren't those black dudes protecting the poor old man?
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Kellog wrote:
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MrSmiley21 wrote:
I think he's guilty of vehicular manslaughter, but not 2nd degree murder, and most definitely not domestic terrorism.


How was this action any different to similar incidents that have been perpetrated throughout Europe. Let me guess, he isn't a 'brown' person!


The latest I saw a few hours ago, Sessions was looking into whether or not the driver had assistance in what happened, especially in planning. The tone didn't indicate they had found anything of such nature yet, but sounded like they expected to find both planning and proof of intent to both harm and cause terror.

That's the difference. If such was there, than of course it is a terrorist attack. Unlike our previous president, Trump's team is actually digging into the potential terrorism act without an overabundance of evidence - which was Obama's standard for terrorism. There were numerous attacks made that Obama either didn't call such until it was blatantly obvious to everyone, or didn't call at all - despite proof of intent and planning, along with collusion with known terrorist groups. They still haven't released the manifesto of one of the terrorist attackers in Oregon for instance.

That's not a little deal - it is significant. Trump's acumen can be questioned, but his intent isn't to hide violent groups from prosecution or public scrutiny, as Obama did several times.
PoE Origins - Piety's story http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2081910
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soneka101 wrote:
The majority of the U.S it's not in favor of the guys in Charlottesville.


The vast majority finds what happened, and the extremist views of many of those at the event to be reprehensible. I find "them" repulsive and wonder whether they are just violent people choosing this as their particular outlet (supposedly a few of those in the "Alt right" groups attending were former Bernie Bros for instance) or if they genuinely believe it and what led them to think that way? Parents, friends, trauma..?

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soneka101 wrote:
So yeah, I don't think that what happened in Charlottesville will spread throughout the country.
The rumblings that the press reported after the election seemed to indicate these extremist groups have been fervently wanting to put together such an event since Nov 8. That they have only now managed one such event, with the additional premise of not letting confederate statues be taken down, tells me they don't have all that much support, and are indeed fringe groups.

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DalaiLama wrote:

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soneka101 wrote:
Aren't those black dudes protecting the poor old man?


They might be! It's impossible to tell from the picture whether the flag was swung first, or the flame can fired up. I didn't check the law, but a few people have said that being masked like that was illegal in Virginia. Although they could be wearing the masks against tear gas, I would think they would have some kind of glasses as well, so I'm leaning towards they went in with the intent of causing harm and not being identified. That might not be the case, could just be following the trend of people they went with.


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MrSmiley21 wrote:
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Kellog wrote:

How was this action any different to similar incidents that have been perpetrated throughout Europe. Let me guess, he isn't a 'brown' person!


The difference is murderous intent, and simply overreacting to the situation because their car was getting hit with rocks and sticks by violent antifa protesters.


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Terrorism is defined in Title 22 Chapter 38 U.S. Code § 2656f as "premeditated, politically motivated violence perpetrated against noncombatant targets by subnational groups or clandestine agents."


I think the aforementioned crime fits with this description.
It all hinges on "premeditated", which the courts are currently uncovering.

Not that there's much else to talk about atm... North Korea still doing good? Mueller still have a job?
No healthcare plan changes or really any other legislature of any kind planned.

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