Donald Trump and US politics

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

The burden of proof is on IC/Congress, we shouldn't take IC/Congress at their word, IC/Congress have not provided evidence supporting their claims. It's that simple. How much you trust the elected President of the US or the elected President of Russia is irrelevant to this logic. You can consider Trump less trustworthy than Congress and it changes nothing.

IC and Congress haven't disclosed the reports because they are classified, if releasing those reports could endanger National Security they are right on withholding them. The fact that they didn't release it, doesn't mean they don't exist, the fact that even republican senators agree with the assessment that Russia is behind the hacking makes a compelling argument that the reports are real and that the evidence is substantial.

Now, if you still want proof then you can start with the report that Reality Winner leaked. So far I haven't seen anyone credible saying that that report was false.

So, we have that report, the word of the IC and congress against the word of Putin that denied twice when "though guy" Trump asked him.

Related:https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/06/us/politics/donald-trump-wall-hack-russia.html

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The intelligence agencies also concluded “with high confidence” that Russia’s main military intelligence unit, the G.R.U., created a “persona” called Guccifer 2.0 and a website, DCLeaks.com, to release the emails of the Democratic National Committee and of the chairman of the Clinton campaign, John D. Podesta.

When those disclosures received what was seen as insufficient attention, the report said, the G.R.U. “relayed material it acquired from the D.N.C. and senior Democratic officials to WikiLeaks.” The founder of WikiLeaks, Julian Assange, has denied that Russia was the source of the emails it published.

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soneka101 wrote:

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The intelligence agencies also concluded “with high confidence” that Russia’s main military intelligence unit, the G.R.U., created a “persona” called Guccifer 2.0

The persona was "Warren Flood" and the creating agency was almost certainly Crowdstrike.

http://bigleaguepolitics.com/hacker-guccifer-2-0-planted-fake-russian-fingerprints-account/

Then we have Glenn Simpson founder of Fusion GPS the company involved with much of this backing out of his agreement to testify in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee.

If the case ever went to court, it would get thrown out of court completely for the following lack of evidence:

Item 1) the DNC has not allowed any examination of the "crime scene" ie the server. The defense would have to be able to search the server - which is why this "case" will never go anywhere.

Item 2) the most important part - we have ZERO proof that any hacking occurred. We only have assertions of a crime. If the server is inspected and forensics reveals it was hacked, then we have a crime. Right now, it's like saying that the Act V concept art on AnnouncementLeaks was hacked by Wraeclastian hacker Bambiccifer 2. Considering that the meta analysis isn't consistent with what is claimed, and is more consistent with a local network or direct connection data transfer - it is highly likely the DNC info was an inside job.


Bill Clinton received a $500,000 speaking fee from a Russian bank tied to the Kremlin before Secretary of State Hillary Clinton helped decide whether to approve the sale to the Russian government of a Uranium One, the company that held one-fifth of America’s uranium capacity. The Clintons’ received $145 million in donations from uranium investors before Russia’s energy agency Rostatom secured the purchase of Uranium One.

One hundred and forty five million dollars.

If a 15 minute meeting concerns someone more than a 145 MILLION dollar deal with uranium being purchased by Russians in what will likely be proven a quid pro quo deal, then the personal bias against Trump has blinded that person to all reason. That deal and many other deals that Clinton (and probably Obama) does not want to come to light are the reason for setting up the "Russian" sting.

It is almost certainly a set up to make it look like Trump was colluding. The uranium one deal, despite the numbers is chump change compared to some of suspected dealings hinted at in the various Wikileaks. If the worst allegations are true, there were TRILLIONS of dollars at stake in the various schemes. That is, and likely was the reason for authorizing and foster war.

I'm not OK with over a half million people getting slaughtered because the democrats felt they could get away with whatever they wanted to. No one would ever kick them out of the white house, so they could make all of these horrific deals.

Trump may be crass, and he may fumble badly at appearing presidential and he struggles at times with the intricacies of political maneuvering. I will take that any day over an evil group of politicians that planned, encouraged and fostered a regional war just so they could enrich their personal and collective bank accounts.

The two dead investigating lawyers turning up beaches, the dead witness being thrown off of buildings, plus the dead investigator that suddenly commit suicide by gun in Miami, or the one that "chose" asphyxiation in Minnesota were all looking at or about to testify against the Clintons. That's five we are aware of in the last 3 months. As someone joked about last year:

In the United States, you are more likely to be killed by Clintons than by sharks.



Why don't more people step away from the MSM Kool Aid? Because they would be shunned.

Whether 'tis ignobler in the public mind to suffer the tweets and bellows of outrageous orange haired leaders, Or to risk scorn amidst a sea of brainwashed fellows, and by opposing, be unfriended?”

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DalaiLama wrote:

Why don't more people step away from the MSM Kool Aid? Because they would be shunned.

Whether 'tis ignobler in the public mind to suffer the tweets and bellows of outrageous orange haired leaders, Or to risk scorn amidst a sea of brainwashed fellows, and by opposing, be unfriended?”

I think there are at least 2 debunked stories on your post. But since I'm no related to HRC you can carry on on doing whatever you are doing...

Most conspiracy theories are false. Chief among them: the widely held notion that all conspiracy theories are false.

When you're actually 50 kills ahead

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

Most conspiracy theories are false. Chief among them: the widely held notion that all conspiracy theories are false.

Conspiracy Theoryception.

"The alt-right and SJWs are mirror images of each other. The sooner they both die off, the better." — Carl Benjamin