Donald Trump and US politics

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Parent Kori Doty - a non-binary transgender person who identifies as neither male nor female - aims to allow the child to discover their own gender.

Sure. No way this child won't be pushed in some weird ideological far-left shit, like that "drag queen mascot" kid, who hasn't even reached puberty yet, but "knows" he's a "she".

Degeneracy gonna degenerate.
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This is the same corrupt media that was backing up all the lies that led to the last 20-year period wars and the same media who was helping to perpetuate these wars. This is the same bloodthirsty media who cheered Trump as being "presidential", the moment he pressed the trigger on Syria.

For 20 years they have been perpetuating wars that don't benefit, but actually hurt US people, but the same people should now think that Trump's attacks on the corrupt corporate media are bad for them? lol...

MSM = dead carcass with no credibility. CNN = a corporation who needs to constantly stream a telenovelas show of "Russian hackers", to appease their zombie viewers and maintain ratings.

Might aswell get your "totally fair propaganda news" from ExxonMobil.
When night falls
She cloaks the world
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morbo wrote:
This is the same corrupt media that was backing up all the lies that led to the last 20-year period wars and the same media who was helping to perpetuate these wars. This is the same bloodthirsty media who cheered Trump as being "presidential", the moment he pressed the trigger on Syria.

For 20 years they have been perpetuating wars that don't benefit, but actually hurt US people, but the same people should now think that Trump's attacks on the corrupt corporate media are bad for them? lol...

MSM = dead carcass with no credibility. CNN = a corporation who needs to constantly stream a telenovelas show of "Russian hackers", to appease their zombie viewers and maintain ratings.

Might aswell get your "totally fair propaganda news" from ExxonMobil.


Don't worry, you have Fox News and Breitbart.
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deathflower wrote:
Don't worry, you have Fox News and Breitbart.

Fox is in the same MSM corporate lying casket as CNN.
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Fox at least has Tucker and Hannity. CNN is pure cancer. Case in point:

http://archive.is/mdHCr

GGG banning all political discussion shortly after getting acquired by China is a weird coincidence.
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鬼殺し wrote:
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/07/the-presss-ineffective-defense/532596/

Quite an interesting read. The most salient point for me is that the media operates best when it's not the story. Which, of course, is probably the last thing cynics of the so-called Mainstream Media want to hear or consider, but it is a truth. To convey the story is the media's role, not to be it. The question then is, should the media be the story? Has it really done the populace any good to allow that to happen? For those who reject MSM, there will always be other sources of information, as there likely always has been, regardless of the status of said MSM. For them, the verisimilitude was never in question because it was never stable to begin with. Fair enough. Believe what you will; think what you will; react how you will.

But I cannot shake the notion that by allowing the President and his to make them the story, the media has failed not so much to report the truth but to report much at all. And it was an animal cunning that lead them here, not some brilliant chess manoeuvre. It was the scent of blood and the look of fear. Vulnerability. The media should not be players in this game, and certainly they allowed that happen. And in doing so made it much more difficult to report on the political climate because they were a part of said climate. Were and are.

Even when what they're reporting on is 100% true, it looks like it has an agenda now.

This isn't healthy. The entire reason there is a media is for the middle of the inevitable bell curve (which admittedly includes virtually none of you) to be reasonably informed without having to go out of their way. The majority of people shouldn't be expected to make that effort when they've everything else going on in their lives.

The prevalent argument here, which has been played out, flipped to the B side, played out again, and then flipped once more as though anyone is saying anything new, is that the media collective always had an agenda, and could never be trusted. And that's perfectly fine to believe from an individual perspective. I've never seen much evidence of that level of collusion between parties traditionally scrambling to get the scoop historically, but there's no denying the media as a whole favoured the democrats and Hillary -- Trump didn't come to the table as a newcomer. There was plenty to work with; a lot of his characteristics and tendencies had already rubbed people the wrong way long before he announced his candidacy. And they went after every single one of those, which of course made them look vindictive and petty even though, again, a lot of what they said about the Republican candidate for presidency was true. And that was stupid of them, because that was when they allowed themselves to become the story rather than the conveyors of it.

We're too far deep into the conflict to bother with who started what or who stands where. The media exists for the public's benefit -- without public trust, they get ignored and die. That trust has been undermined, officially and clearly. And as the article points out, it's not just steadfast Trump supporters who feel that way. It's a vast majority of Americans.

I don't envy the media's position now. If they do 'their job' and report on Trump, they're still the story, because unless their reporting is pro-Trump, it will be spun as anti-Trump, and the tone of some left-to-middle publications isn't helping there at all. If they ignore him, they're proving doubters right by failing to tell the truth. The article's argument then, is:

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In order to defend itself, the media will have to make the case that Trump’s attacks on the press are bad for the public.


Easier said than done, when the majority of Americans aren't even willing to listen to what you have to say...

I'm not sure I agree. The not-reporting thing seems the lesser of two evils here. On one hand, sure, it'll mean less gossip about ice cream scoops and tweets anyone can see for themselves...but on the other, if all they do is report on whatever the President of the United States is doing policy-wise, politically, professionally...this might highlight how little of that is actually going on, and that the ongoing war 'with' the media is just a smokescreen generating 'news' constantly about...pretty much nothing.

Or maybe we'll be shown that under the bluster Trump really is a good President and has been doing many good things for the United States. I'd like to see that, and I'd like to see the so-called MSM report on it.
First, the transition from cable television to Internet-based video services (a la YouTube) already spells the inevitable doom of the mainstream media. Who covers the news has been democratized, freed from the control of the owners of capital. A socialist should love it. And for what it's worth, I've noticed some of the better YouTube media analysts (most notably StyxHexenHammer666) warn against lionizing people like themselves, realizing your very point that direct involvement tends to erode credibility — and paint a target on one's back.

Second, elements within the mainstream media created Trump in coordination with the Clinton campaign, as evidenced by DKIM-verified (meaning: authentic) email released by WikiLeaks. The MSM made sure one of Been Carson, Ted Cruz, or Donald Trump won by basking them with positive press during the primaries, as requested. They then threw everything at Trump to prevent their creation from winning, even telling people reading WikiLeaks was illegal, and they failed. The media acted first, they chose to get involved, and now are threatened by their own creation. Why on Earth would you want to see them spared?

It's time to move forward. Out with the old, in with the new.
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Media made it's own bed by getting away from reporting and into advocacy journalism.

Another thing is using "unnamed sources" was extremely rare if ever. Now it's virtually every story and you can't trust it because no way to verify with the source. So they make up news for their advocacy. Fake Fake news.

As an aside, from Atlantic story, look at how those clowns dress. The Asian guy has a off the rack suit with sneakers. The white guy skinny jeans with timberland boots and suit top. How can you trust someone who cant dress himself?
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Aim_Deep wrote:
HAPPY 4TH OF JULY EVERYBODY!

241 Years ago Americans took up arms against an oppressive king and fought for freedom and the great county you all know and love was born.


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On the 241st anniversary of the signing of the Declaration of Independence on July 4, 1776, Secretary Ryan Zinke invites all Americans to enjoy the beauty of the nation's public lands and historic sites this weekend, to reflect on the blessings of liberty, and thank the men and women of the armed forces who help protect it.


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Aim_Deep wrote:
HAPPY 4TH OF JULY EVERYBODY!

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