Donald Trump and US politics

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k1rage wrote:

but the cost aloe of deporting so many people would be prohibitive

and its already illegal to hire illegals

plus all the lefties would bitch/sue and it would end up in court for forever

Wouldn't you rather billions get spent on cleaning up our country and making it great again than spending it on welfare and other perks for the criminals?

I personally know of many businesses that hire illegals and I'd say majority of businesses DO employ them.

National security > feelings.

Its setup to hire illegals. Like when a guy fills out I9 with fake SS # takes like 9 months to come back as invalid then he just gives you another SS card. Rinse repeat. That said I dont mind illegals labor. They work. It's free shit army I dont like.

Everything really from public schools to welfare.

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Aim_Deep wrote:

Its setup to hire illegals. Like when a guy fills out I9 with fake SS # takes like 9 months to come back as invalid then he just gives you another SS card. Rinse repeat. That said I dont mind illegals. They work. It's free shit army I dont like.

and during that time they are paying into social security

social security they will never collect

in that sense its a very good thing

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Wraeclastian wrote:

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k1rage wrote:

but the cost aloe of deporting so many people would be prohibitive

and its already illegal to hire illegals

plus all the lefties would bitch/sue and it would end up in court for forever

Wouldn't you rather billions get spent on cleaning up our country and making it great again than spending it on welfare and other perks for the criminals?

I personally know of many businesses that hire illegals and I'd say majority of businesses DO employ them.

National security > feelings.

Im saying its not really possible...

there are to many

not to mention they fill a role.

I would deport (or worse) any illegal that commits any additional crime however

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k1rage wrote:

Im saying its not really possible...

there are to many

not to mention they fill a role.

I would deport (or worse) any illegal that commits any additional crime however

But it is entirely possible to rid the country of at least 90% of illegal aliens. Also, they already committed a pretty serious crime by international standards. Entering a country illegally is a serious offense in every other country in the world except for the USA and it is ruining this great country.

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Wraeclastian wrote:

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k1rage wrote:

Im saying its not really possible...

there are to many

not to mention they fill a role.

I would deport (or worse) any illegal that commits any additional crime however

But it is entirely possible to rid the country of at least 90% of illegal aliens. Also, they already committed a pretty serious crime by international standards. Entering a country illegally is a serious offense in every other country in the world except for the USA and it is ruining this great country.

I think you are underestimating the monumental task of moving that many people

you have to find them, process them, and then actually move them

and we are talking about millions of people

Congress would never fund such an endeavor even an all republican congress would not shell out that kind of cash

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morbo wrote:

#NotAll!!

You've come up with the argument "all", not me.

...What? The video is grouping liberals as 1 mass of violence. Me saying that there shouldn't be generalizations is consistent and the whole point of this conversation.

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morbo wrote:

What I said is that the left is riddled with violence, much more than the right. An that the liberal media, academia and politicians are doing a piss poor job at addressing this problem. In fact they whitewash the actual violence (like antifa riots) and violent innuendo (like that old hag with the severed head of Donald Trump), as much as possible.

That NRA video is just capitalizing on the violent actions and rhetoric coming from the left. And frankly, seeing how the police was ordered to stand down (eg. in Berkeley), and allow antifa thugs to attack people unopposed, that gal is kinda right: if the state wont defend your rights, you'll have to do it yourself.

Oh man, that's so sad... really, you criticize Kathy Griffin and then you say this video is OK. That's like the perfect example of double standard. People criticized Kathy Griffin because what she did could be considered inciting violence(I agree with that, and also found the image disgusting).

As a person one should define what they think is right and what is wrong, and then criticize it no matter from which side it comes. What you are doing now is choosing which side you think is right and which is wrong, and justifying the wrongs on one side, without seeing the rights on the other.

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morbo wrote:

Biased garbage source... eg:

Cry me a river.

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morbo wrote:

Has to avoid including 9/11 and 50 dead in the Orlando massacre, to paint a statistic where right wingers seem more dangerous than Islamic terrorists. Also tries to categorize things like vandalizing and "cross burning" as right wing terror attacks... lets also include the vandalizing & street burning, coming from antifa & BLM, for a fair comparison, right?

Did you notice that the article doesn't even mention left wing terrorism? Your whole point was that "the left is more violent than the right, therefore is fair to have that kind of video about them", but when it comes to terrorism the comparison is "right vs ISIS". Before the Bernie guy that shoot the congressman I don't even remember hearing about someone killed by a left-extremist.

You talk and talk about how the left is clearly more violent, and yet you show no sources for your claims. No data comparing the two of them. Newsweek is bad for you? Well, something is better than nothing.

(Also, Even if they included 9/11 and the Orlando shooting, proving that ISIS are more dangerous than right wing is not the point of this conversation, we were talking about liberals not being as violent as is said in the video weren't we? Focus man!)

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morbo wrote:

Man, if I wanted some highly biased anti-conservative, anti-white, anti-Christian opinions, I'd go watch the Young Turds...

What are you even talking about now? Did that article piss you off that much? It was the first one I found on google, I didn't mean to upset you that much.

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Xavderion wrote:

Spoiler

I heard states refuse to turn over voter rolls for investigation. Pathetic.

Thread on twitter: https://twitter.com/AriBerman/status/878297745244684290

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2 hours after SCOTUS gutted Voting Rights Act, Texas implemented voter ID law where you can vote with gun permit but not student ID

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A month after SCOTUS gutted Voting Rights Act, North Carolina passed country’s worst voter suppression law

Sauce: https://www.thenation.com/article/north-carolina-passes-countrys-worst-voter-suppression-law/?nc=1

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More states have enacted new voting restrictions in 2017 than in 2016 & 2015 combined

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Gerrymandering + Voter suppression = Fair democratic process to elect your officials where every vote weights the same.

Sorry but I don't buy the "voter ID is rayciss" bullshit.

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Xavderion wrote:

Sorry but I don't buy the "voter ID is rayciss" bullshit.

Spoiler

Even if I concede about voter ID, what about the rest?