[2.6] Chaos Animate Weapon Necromancer (EHC level 100!)

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7thSlap wrote:

- What do you think of Skin of the Loyal as body armour? Is the +1 gems worth it to give up the life and res on the body armour?

- How do you think about Victario's Charity + necro aegis? Shouldn't this boost the dmg of AW significant with the fenzy and power charges? And you turn into a semi-support for your party, providing frenzy and power charges via your minions.

- If you you would not run your curses on blasphemy (and cast them by yourself) which auras would you recommend for AW? I was thinking of using Envy, Haste and Hatred on generosity and self cast my curses via ball lightning + CoH + EE.


I'm not Uber, but I've been playing AW group self-found (me and 8 ish friends) for Breach SC and am level 88 atm. Since it's self-found, getting heretic's veil and severed in sleep hasn't gone well yet.
Envy and Haste on Generosity would be nice, but I don't understand what Hatred is supposed to do, your damage is chaos, not physical. You would probably need Discipline anyways, if you're planning on running MoM/EB. I'm cursing with ball lightning and CoH.

I'm using a +1 gems Tabula for my chest, so Skin of the Loyal isn't a dumb idea, but the +1 doesn't really add THAT much damage, and you do insane damage either way. You can always stack more damage but do you really need to kill a boss in 0.4 seconds instead of 0.8? I think it's really important to make sure that you and your weapons are alive. That's why I think it's important to get life and ES. I would only go for Skin of the Loyal/Tabula if getting a good 6L Vaal Regalia isn't an option. Heck with United in Dream, a 5L Vaal Regalia would probably be better than SotL/Tabula.

Same story with Victario's Charity, sure the charges would add a little damage, but that removes your shield slot which is a big source of defense. If the shield gave endurance charges it might be considerable.

IMO you should aim for United In Dream with a sick ES+Life shield and ES+Life 6L chest, use essence of fear to get minion speed jewelry and bone helmet. I'm actually even sure if Haste is worth all the stuff you'd need to sacrifice in order to get enough mana reservation reduction. You'd need at least 4 points in the tree, and you'd need either lvl 4 Enlighten or Skyforth unless you want to sacrifice your helm slot for Alpha's Howl (With 5 points in tree, lvl 3 Enlighten and Conqueror's Efficiency could work as well). I guess if you get enough ES on gear you could maybe swap out Discipline for Haste if you feel like you don't get mana issues at all.
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Chrozon wrote:
I'm not Uber, but I've been playing AW group self-found (me and 8 ish friends) for Breach SC and am level 88 atm. Since it's self-found, getting heretic's veil and severed in sleep hasn't gone well yet.
Envy and Haste on Generosity would be nice, but I don't understand what Hatred is supposed to do, your damage is chaos, not physical. You would probably need Discipline anyways, if you're planning on running MoM/EB. I'm cursing with ball lightning and CoH.

I'm using a +1 gems Tabula for my chest, so Skin of the Loyal isn't a dumb idea, but the +1 doesn't really add THAT much damage, and you do insane damage either way. You can always stack more damage but do you really need to kill a boss in 0.4 seconds instead of 0.8? I think it's really important to make sure that you and your weapons are alive. That's why I think it's important to get life and ES. I would only go for Skin of the Loyal/Tabula if getting a good 6L Vaal Regalia isn't an option. Heck with United in Dream, a 5L Vaal Regalia would probably be better than SotL/Tabula.

Same story with Victario's Charity, sure the charges would add a little damage, but that removes your shield slot which is a big source of defense. If the shield gave endurance charges it might be considerable.

IMO you should aim for United In Dream with a sick ES+Life shield and ES+Life 6L chest, use essence of fear to get minion speed jewelry and bone helmet. I'm actually even sure if Haste is worth all the stuff you'd need to sacrifice in order to get enough mana reservation reduction. You'd need at least 4 points in the tree, and you'd need either lvl 4 Enlighten or Skyforth unless you want to sacrifice your helm slot for Alpha's Howl (With 5 points in tree, lvl 3 Enlighten and Conqueror's Efficiency could work as well). I guess if you get enough ES on gear you could maybe swap out Discipline for Haste if you feel like you don't get mana issues at all.


Thanks for the long answer!

Is hatred less usefull because it does not provide flat dmg? So AW scales best with added dmg is the best?
I never played AW before and have no real idea of its scales.

I think I will focus on a rare/high ES body armour + shield instead of the skin of the loyal.
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7thSlap wrote:

Thanks for the long answer!

Is hatred less usefull because it does not provide flat dmg? So AW scales best with added dmg is the best?
I never played AW before and have no real idea of its scales.

I think I will focus on a rare/high ES body armour + shield instead of the skin of the loyal.


If you're doing poison AW (which you should), your damage comes from the Added Chaos Damage gem, which adds flat chaos damage to the minion's attacks. You then scale this with Void Manipulation which increases chaos damage, and Minion Damage, which increases damage from minions in general. The Envy aura works because it just adds more flat chaos which is insane. The only thing hatred would do, is take like 35% of the physical damage from the weapon itself as extra damage, which is nothing compared to the chaos damage. This means attack speed is the only real good stat on an animated weapon. You could take weapons from normal difficulty with high attack speed and it would do more damage than a tyrannical 2H.

There is nothing wrong with +1 gem 6L. Plan your gear based on what you can afford. If you can afford a 6L ES body and United in Dream, you're golden. But if you have to play it a bit budget, you can consider the simple robe uniques. The best combination for the least amount of currency would be a good 5L ES with Severed in Sleep. Until then you could use a Tabula with a cast speed wand and ES shield, or 5/6L bow with minion speed quiver.
Could u maybe upload your item filter for 2.5 pls ?:)
Why does this build start with lvl 75?

Why isnt it possible to level with this animate weapons?
Bayern des samma mia


just bought these 2 and 6l, i didnt mind self casting at all but playing with spell totem is actualy so good makes gameplay so much more chilling and not intense as it is with self-casting..

how does sockets in the wep works when u upgrade it btw? I saw you have socketed generosity so i asume it works and minion damage also somehow scales with it? im not sure but i think with aura on generosity you lose commander of darkness ascendansy, or you just lose it on yourself but your minions still gets it?
Last edited by ffab1an#4121 on Dec 11, 2016, 11:41:09 AM
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Uhrwerker wrote:
Why does this build start with lvl 75?

Why isnt it possible to level with this animate weapons?


It is possible but will be very slow. Or maybe not really slow but there is too much work because you change zones fast when leveling. And normal zones dont drop so many weapons as maps
Last edited by arcadius#6258 on Dec 11, 2016, 1:21:46 PM
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Uhrwerker wrote:
Why does this build start with lvl 75?

Why isnt it possible to level with this animate weapons?


Is possible and very fast, but onyl if you support your animate weapon with a 4L SRS --> SRS + ECHO + SPLASH + Minion DMG.
So how does minion life work in AW? Does is depend on actual weapon you animate (higher the better) or on gem?
What do you guys think is the strongest helm enchantment for AW? Chance for addtional copy, AW dmg or AW duration?

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