[2.6/3.1] Shaper down on budget 5-link - The Debuffing Pizza (Tri-Curse CI Elementalist Flameblast)

How does this build compare to Dual Flameblast Totems? Honestly, please. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1809564
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Amivit wrote:
How does this build compare to Dual Flameblast Totems? Honestly, please. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1809564


This one you are more active while playing. Totems is mostly running in circles.
Also totem build don't use resistance curses. So you lose out on -40 to 50 res on enemies. I don't know how much loss that is.
Go totem if you want a "safer" experience.

Damage wise totem will lose out. If it really matters is up to you.
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rossko wrote:
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loonger wrote:
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MrMusclyArms wrote:
Just one thing I'm confused about in this guide: at the top of the "leveling"/"skill trees" section, it says:


Use Firestorm/Spark/Spell Totem for early stage. Only use Flameblast after you have got the Elemental Proliferation support gem (around late A4 Normal to A1 Cruel). After that everything should run smoothly.

But when I look at the gem setups, I don't see EP support gem linked to flameblast anywhere? Are you supposed to use it while leveling and swap it out later?

You can start using FB-Elemental Prolif.-Control Destru from Cruel A1 or A2. After you have got the proliferation Ascendency point you can then swap the Ele. Prolif. gem for increase AOE for mapping.


Wouldnt that kinda throw away ele prolif with contr destru?

I thought you ignite only if you crit!? Or am i missing something?


And if OP maybe reads this .....PLZ DO MAPPING/AOE GEMS in gem section


Yeah I'm wondering this too. I don't really understand what gems exactly I should use.

I'm now in Cruel A1 and flameblast doesn't really seem to work....


I started with faster casting ele proli and fb in a +1 fire gems wand at the same time and it was ok......

Not great but ok (i dont like firestorm at all and it was better aoe but much worse vs bosses)

But i feel like ele prolif is kinda wasted with that low amount of crit....




Ps. start using orb of storms vs "hard" bosses for the ele equi prog.
hey guys Im back on PoE since a really long time and im trying this build. noob question: can someone explain to me how elemental overload works with controled destruction? Am I not understanding something? 40% dmg if youve crit in the last 8 seconds but cant crit with controled destruction?
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rossko wrote:
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rossko wrote:
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loonger wrote:

Wouldnt that kinda throw away ele prolif with contr destru?

I thought you ignite only if you crit!? Or am i missing something?


And if OP maybe reads this .....PLZ DO MAPPING/AOE GEMS in gem section


Yeah I'm wondering this too. I don't really understand what gems exactly I should use.

I'm now in Cruel A1 and flameblast doesn't really seem to work....


I started with faster casting ele proli and fb in a +1 fire gems wand at the same time and it was ok......

Not great but ok (i dont like firestorm at all and it was better aoe but much worse vs bosses)

But i feel like ele prolif is kinda wasted with that low amount of crit....


Ps. start using orb of storms vs "hard" bosses for the ele equi prog.


How does ele proli work if I don't have ignite support?

EDIT: Also, how do I get 3 curses on? I'm still a beginner, and the build doesn't seem to explain that.
Last edited by Irmeli#7589 on Mar 4, 2017, 1:14:51 PM
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Irmeli wrote:
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rossko wrote:
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loonger wrote:


You can start using FB-Elemental Prolif.-Control Destru from Cruel A1 or A2. After you have got the proliferation Ascendency point you can then swap the Ele. Prolif. gem for increase AOE for mapping.


Wouldnt that kinda throw away ele prolif with contr destru?

I thought you ignite only if you crit!? Or am i missing something?


And if OP maybe reads this .....PLZ DO MAPPING/AOE GEMS in gem section


Yeah I'm wondering this too. I don't really understand what gems exactly I should use.
Like if I only have a 4 link at the moment, what gems for flame blast? Or do I
need the 5 link for it to work?

I'm now in Cruel A1 and flameblast doesn't really seem to work....

EDIT: How important is a ele dmg sceptre for flameblast? I've only been using wands so far...


The main dmg of this build is burning dmg, ele dmg/fire dmg boost both initial hit and burning dmg. The spell dmg only boost the initial hit.

"Notably, modifiers to spell damage and attack damage (also often referred to as damage with x weapon) do not apply to Ignite as Ignite is not a spell or attack." from Ignite page on Wikia.
Last edited by darkfuku#7279 on Mar 4, 2017, 3:10:23 PM
How does elemental overload and controlled destruction work?
Why take Fangs of the Viper for increased Chaos Damage, isn't that pointless and a waste of points? Or where is the chaos dmg coming from? ... Or are the tree's messed up because of the new patch?

Also, Elemental Equilibrium.. Why? Thanks in advance.

Also, thank you very much for the feedback below :)

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snyft wrote:
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Amivit wrote:
How does this build compare to Dual Flameblast Totems? Honestly, please. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1809564


This one you are more active while playing. Totems is mostly running in circles.
Also totem build don't use resistance curses. So you lose out on -40 to 50 res on enemies. I don't know how much loss that is.
Go totem if you want a "safer" experience.

Damage wise totem will lose out. If it really matters is up to you.
Last edited by Amivit#3619 on Mar 4, 2017, 7:58:16 PM
€dit: i am stupid sorry -.-
Last edited by rossko#0686 on Mar 4, 2017, 9:21:22 PM
For mapping: Flameblast- chance to ignite - increased AOE - fire penertration - controlled destruction. If you haven't got the Proliferation Asendency (need to finish Cruel Lab), then you MUST use Elemental Prolifertion in your link no matter you are in 3 link or 5 link.

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