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" Albinosaurus wrote: I should have known better than to expect something other than raw fallacy and personal attacks from you. Your arguments are hollow as shit, and are just like Fruz' empty posts. Then you go and backtrack on what you said. I'm not impressed. Try again. P.S. I've already debunked every one of those points. you have done your own bit of personal attacks, so I don't think you have a leg to stand on when it comes to that.	Posted by Xtorma on Jul 11, 2016, 6:04:27 PM Quote this Post
The difference is that mine are alongside my arguments--not in place of them. Tired of trolls? Ignore them. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1473168	Posted by Albinosaurus on Jul 11, 2016, 6:07:18 PM Quote this Post
" Albinosaurus wrote: The difference is that mine are alongside my arguments--not in place of them. There is no difference.	Posted by Xtorma on Jul 11, 2016, 6:09:55 PM Quote this Post
As if you're one to talk. Tired of trolls? Ignore them. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1473168	Posted by Albinosaurus on Jul 11, 2016, 7:02:24 PM Quote this Post
" Albinosaurus wrote: The difference is that mine are alongside my arguments--not in place of them. Still waiting for your arguments, you have not "debunked" anything. Not that this message is useful of course lol ! Your last message is amazing SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading. Last edited by Fruz on Jul 12, 2016, 2:23:22 AM	Posted by Fruz on Jul 12, 2016, 2:23:09 AM Quote this Post
Go back and read them then. It's all there. Tired of trolls? Ignore them. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1473168	Posted by Albinosaurus on Jul 12, 2016, 6:19:46 AM Quote this Post
I see we are just resorted to the whole I already addressed that and all you can do is insults and blah blah blah. Good times. When I call you out for the lack of reading comprehension you have, you have no argument to make when you indeed do go back and read that it was not I that was contradicting myself, but you. Its fine though, this threads turned into something no one should be reading anymore anyway, LOL. https://youtu.be/T9kygXtkh10?t=285 FeelsBadMan Remove MF from POE, make juiced map the new MF.	Posted by goetzjam on Jul 12, 2016, 10:25:35 AM Quote this Post
This has to be the most useless discussion I have ever seen. Neither side is really debating anything as neither side seems to provide any type of backup to claims they make. The funny thing is, there is precedence for pre-leveled characters: World of Warcraft. If anyone here was really into debating whether pre-leveled characters for $$$ helps or hurts the game, you could go back and actually analyze the effects it had on WoW and try to draw logical comparisons. Right now the debate is akin to "I like cheese" vs "I don't like cheese". /r/circlejerk would be proud. Personally I think the burden of proof should be on the individuals that are FOR pre-leveled characters (since that is the idea posed first by the OP), and it should be up to the other side to disprove that with logic and facts. Until that happens this is just a fostering ground for trolls and rage baits.	Posted by Prizy on Jul 12, 2016, 11:18:36 AM Quote this Post
Just because you haven't been reading them doesn't mean I haven't been shooting down every counter argument. If you can't be assed to go read them, I understand, but don't make assumptions about what actually was argued as if you know what's going on. You simply don't. The point has been made extremely thoroughly, and what's left is two or three regular forum trolls sitting in here trying to derail it, because they are out of arguments. That's all that's going on. Tired of trolls? Ignore them. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1473168	Posted by Albinosaurus on Jul 12, 2016, 12:10:59 PM Quote this Post
" This has to be the most useless discussion I have ever seen. Neither side is really debating anything as neither side seems to provide any type of backup to claims they make. The funny thing is, there is precedence for pre-leveled characters: World of Warcraft. If anyone here was really into debating whether pre-leveled characters for $$$ helps or hurts the game, you could go back and actually analyze the effects it had on WoW and try to draw logical comparisons. Right now the debate is akin to "I like cheese" vs "I don't like cheese". /r/circlejerk would be proud. Personally I think the burden of proof should be on the individuals that are FOR pre-leveled characters (since that is the idea posed first by the OP), and it should be up to the other side to disprove that with logic and facts. Until that happens this is just a fostering ground for trolls and rage baits. yep, basically. But the few things worth reading are deep into that waaay too long thread. I'm kinda used to try discussing with people that seem to have reading troubles ( or trolls ) to be honest, and I should just not answer I guess, yet I'm still here. SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading. Last edited by Fruz on Jul 12, 2016, 4:11:14 PM	Posted by Fruz on Jul 12, 2016, 4:00:06 PM Quote this Post