[2.3]Dela's Obliterate Build CHEAP & FAST clears 200% life UPDATED

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xenochaos1 wrote:
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Velgor wrote:
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xenochaos1 wrote:
i am not sure why some people go pierce shot and why some people dont go pierce shot?! when is it needed and when is it not?!

also i am not sure if we are supposed to go crit or psn?! ppl take facebreaker and Rats nest, but dont take any crit node?! what is our main dmg source? psn or crit?! also if its crit should i go deadeye for the crit node? OR should i go pathfinder for the Herbalism node that give psn to every attack?!
where do people stand on pathfinder VS deadeye?


what you mean with psn?
Pierce gem is always great for the 1.3 multiplier alone and crit nodes are needed if you take facebreaker/rats nest.
Deadeye has overall more dmg if you build crit and 20 % more aoe radius for skills


psn=poison
and i am not asking about pierce gem i am asking about pierce node (piercing shot) north of acrobatic.
pretty much every tree takes it except yours Velgor ;p

so if i do deadeye i take crit? and if i go pathfinder i go poison?!
if i choose deadeye, and i have too choose between poison node and crit node do i take crit or poison?!


You alrdy get enough pierce from Powerful precision to get 100 % pierce.
Both Deadeye and Pathfinder should build for crit and poison to get better dps.

Deadeye gets 180 % crit chance with 40 % crit multi ontop of the 20 % aoe radius and +1 projectile.
Pathfinder would get the 20 % increased poison dmg and duration and the free poison tho.

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widowmaikr wrote:
Probably a really dumb question, but I just starting playing again..

Is this build still viable?


Thx :)


Yeah
Last edited by Velgor#1241 on Jul 2, 2016, 4:34:15 PM
Build is very solid and fun. Thanks for it. I tried elementalist first, but like deadeye better. Here is my gear, level 84 deadeye.

You are forgetting the 20%attack speed / 15% movement speed for Pathfinder, the 20% better flasks, bleed removal, things add up.
And the main reason for Pathfinder was that it was so cheap - crit gear is too expensive.

Atm getting 15k unbuffed / 35k buffed and gems are 19/20 so I prolly wont hit 40k dps but my clear speed is insane - I dont see any reason to invest in crit (read expensive) gear.
And ye, I got lucky with 200 fuse 6L carcass :)
Oh ye...and 200% movement speed from flasks/vaal haste and some talents (only piece of gear with %movement speed are the boots)
Last edited by Mobsy#5034 on Jul 3, 2016, 7:21:25 AM
Lvl93 Deadeye,
I first started with Carcass Jack but after some bad experiences with high hitting monsters I decided to switch to Lightning Coil, I even gave up the dual wielding for +9max light res with Saffell's frame (+1 make it cheap to get lvl23 Fire res). I also went for some chaos res (64 in merciless) to be safe against "poison on hit" maps.
Dps is low compared to what I've seen here, at 10.5k, but playing solo, the only time I felt a bit slow was against dual bosses Shrine.
Great build, giving up on crit is a good way to make it easy to gear.

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Mobsy wrote:
You are forgetting the 20%attack speed / 15% movement speed for Pathfinder, the 20% better flasks, bleed removal, things add up.
And the main reason for Pathfinder was that it was so cheap - crit gear is too expensive.

Atm getting 15k unbuffed / 35k buffed and gems are 19/20 so I prolly wont hit 40k dps but my clear speed is insane - I dont see any reason to invest in crit (read expensive) gear.
And ye, I got lucky with 200 fuse 6L carcass :)
Oh ye...and 200% movement speed from flasks/vaal haste and some talents (only piece of gear with %movement speed are the boots)


ya mosby, i wanna try the Pathfinder path, i believe the small clearing speed doesnt = more movement speed/defence and 1more skill gem (no need for poison when you poison on flask use)

could i ask your for your tree/gear/gem? and advise? (can you put your profile to public?)

alos as Belgor said :
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Both Deadeye and Pathfinder should build for crit and poison to get better dps.
so i guess i 100% drop the crit to go only poison/chaos?

lastly, if i had to pick between those 2 nodes, which one should take?

1-(Fatal toxin wheel)=70% poison dmg + 10% chance to poison on hit
2-(method of the madness wheel)=12%chaso resist + 54% chaos dmg


also enyone has this gus: Rinceventvent tree/gear?!?!
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Last edited by xenochaos1#4153 on Jul 3, 2016, 9:03:43 AM
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Mobsy wrote:
You are forgetting the 20%attack speed / 15% movement speed for Pathfinder, the 20% better flasks, bleed removal, things add up.
And the main reason for Pathfinder was that it was so cheap - crit gear is too expensive.

Atm getting 15k unbuffed / 35k buffed and gems are 19/20 so I prolly wont hit 40k dps but my clear speed is insane - I dont see any reason to invest in crit (read expensive) gear.
And ye, I got lucky with 200 fuse 6L carcass :)
Oh ye...and 200% movement speed from flasks/vaal haste and some talents (only piece of gear with %movement speed are the boots)


Deadeye as some other stuff to like up to 30 % more dmg which double dips with poison.
But how is wearing Rat's nest and facebreaker/snakebite expensive?

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xenochaos1 wrote:


ya mosby, i wanna try the Pathfinder path, i believe the small clearing speed doesnt = more movement speed/defence and 1more skill gem (no need for poison when you poison on flask use)

could i ask your for your tree/gear/gem? and advise? (can you put your profile to public?)

alos as Belgor said :
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Both Deadeye and Pathfinder should build for crit and poison to get better dps.
so i guess i 100% drop the crit to go only poison/chaos?

lastly, if i had to pick between those 2 nodes, which one should take?

1-(Fatal toxin wheel)=70% poison dmg + 10% chance to poison on hit
2-(method of the madness wheel)=12%chaso resist + 54% chaos dmg


also enyone has this gus: Rinceventvent tree/gear?!?!


Wearing snakebite would also free up a gem slot.
You better off getting both poison and chaos dmg, chaos dmg would both effect your hit and poison tho
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lastly, if i had to pick between those 2 nodes, which one should take?

1-(Fatal toxin wheel)=70% poison dmg + 10% chance to poison on hit
2-(method of the madness wheel)=12%chaso resist + 54% chaos dmg




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Wearing snakebite would also free up a gem slot.
You better off getting both poison and chaos dmg, chaos dmg would both effect your hit and poison tho


1-still i dont have enought node points to get both Fatal toxin & method of the madnes so which one would u suggests?!
i prefer toxin over madness as getting madness cost 11 skill points, while toxin only cost 6 skillspoints... is madness rly worth 5 more skill points? or not?


2-Also velgor, how do you poison your ennemies?! i see you dont use the poison gem nor are you pathfinder... so how do you poison your ennemy?!

3-lastyl if you took the 50% pierce node from tree (4 nodes) you could drop projectile weakness curse, and go assassin mark curse to generate your power charge? good idea?
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Last edited by xenochaos1#4153 on Jul 3, 2016, 11:51:19 AM
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xenochaos1 wrote:
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lastly, if i had to pick between those 2 nodes, which one should take?

1-(Fatal toxin wheel)=70% poison dmg + 10% chance to poison on hit
2-(method of the madness wheel)=12%chaso resist + 54% chaos dmg




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Wearing snakebite would also free up a gem slot.
You better off getting both poison and chaos dmg, chaos dmg would both effect your hit and poison tho


1-still i dont have enought node points to get both Fatal toxin & method of the madnes so which one would u suggests?!
i prefer toxin over madness as getting madness cost 11 skill points, while toxin only cost 6 skillspoints... is madness rly worth 5 more skill points? or not?


2-Also velgor, how do you poison your ennemies?! i see you dont use the poison gem nor are you pathfinder... so how do you poison your ennemy?!

3-lastyl if you took the 50% pierce node from tree (4 nodes) you could drop projectile weakness curse, and go assassin mark curse to generate your power charge? good idea?


Method of the madnes would be 125 % effective dmg and toxin 70 %, if your hit and poison dmg would be ~ 50/50.
Toxin may be better if you get more of your dmg through poison, method of the madnes would have a jewel socket nearby, for only 2 points tho.

I don't need the pierce from projectile weakness, since i have 100 % pierce within a ~90 % range of my screen, is more about the 55% dmg buff you get (with may effect poison too) compered to assassin's mark with only offers 20 %.

I currently use snakebite to get my poison, it also offers 36% increased Accuracy Rating and 12% increased Attack Speed for me.

Last edited by Velgor#1241 on Jul 3, 2016, 12:41:07 PM
I was curious if anyone could upload some high level maps on this build. T13++?

It looks so amazing, and I want to do it for the clearspeed / fun factor, but just not sure if I could farm those high maps. don't care about uber, etc.
"Good thing they nerfed the carto, it wasn't fun to find one in every map." - Haborym
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Wearing snakebite would also free up a gem slot.
You better off getting both poison and chaos dmg, chaos dmg would both effect your hit and poison tho

ness rly worth 5 more skill points? or not?[/quote]

but whne you posted your gear a few page ago... you posted that you are using facebreaker... no?!
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