[2.3]Dela's Obliterate Build CHEAP & FAST clears 200% life UPDATED

So far I'm level 66, but I can't use KB yet because it barely tickles the ennemies in dried lake. I'm using bladefall instead, which kills everything but voll and that annoying blink arrow unique in one shot though, but there's 2 problems I'd like to solve to get on KB

First, here's my tree and gear



https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAMCAAQHBLMHHgj0D6sRlha_GF0c3CL0JpUo-jLRNZI2PTpYPAU9X0GHRUdFnUlRSbFMs1BCUlNTNVNSVUtVxlcrYeJirGjyakNqjGt6bAtsjG0ZbWx_xoIQgseD24w2j0aTJ5Uul5WX9Jrgm6GdqqIAotmnCKyYrfGw2LVItz64k7zqvYLAVMBmyBTIv9fP2L3fit-w6QLr7u9874jwH_DV9W_31_k3-ej-Cv6z

First, I will use devoto soon, I just can't max my resists without it yet. But my main concern is I can't sustain BR, it keeps burning my life at quite a noticeable rate even with all the life regen nodes you indicated I should take. Without it, no run speed, no poison, so it's still relatively slow, especially with echo bladefall having a long animation.

The other concern is the KB damage itself, I need 2-3 shots to kill the smallest skittering critters, I need to stand and bang a while to kill blue archers. We're talking 10 to 15 times less damage with my 6 link than on your 4 link video. That seems far more of a difference than the 100% or so I could get from the atrophy and corruption wheels together, so I'm quite puzzled.

The last thing, you seem to imply that frost wall has offensive applications with KB. It's my first time using that skill, so I don't quite get that part. so far the only time it's been of use is to keep P-boxes hordes away from me while I bladefall from behind.
Last edited by vampwar#4097 on Apr 16, 2016, 11:37:15 PM
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vampwar wrote:
So far I'm level 66, but I can't use KB yet because it barely tickles the ennemies in dried lake. I'm using bladefall instead, which kills everything but voll and that annoying blink arrow unique in one shot though, but there's 2 problems I'd like to solve to get on KB

First, here's my tree and gear



https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAMCAAQHBLMHHgj0D6sRlha_GF0c3CL0JpUo-jLRNZI2PTpYPAU9X0GHRUdFnUlRSbFMs1BCUlNTNVNSVUtVxlcrYeJirGjyakNqjGt6bAtsjG0ZbWx_xoIQgseD24w2j0aTJ5Uul5WX9Jrgm6GdqqIAotmnCKyYrfGw2LVItz64k7zqvYLAVMBmyBTIv9fP2L3fit-w6QLr7u9874jwH_DV9W_31_k3-ej-Cv6z

First, I will use devoto soon, I just can't max my resists without it yet. But my main concern is I can't sustain BR, it keeps burning my life at quite a noticeable rate even with all the life regen nodes you indicated I should take. Without it, no run speed, no poison, so it's still relatively slow, especially with echo bladefall having a long animation.

The other concern is the KB damage itself, I need 2-3 shots to kill the smallest skittering critters, I need to stand and bang a while to kill blue archers. We're talking 10 to 15 times less damage with my 6 link than on your 4 link video. That seems far more of a difference than the 100% or so I could get from the atrophy and corruption wheels together, so I'm quite puzzled.

The last thing, you seem to imply that frost wall has offensive applications with KB. It's my first time using that skill, so I don't quite get that part. so far the only time it's been of use is to keep P-boxes hordes away from me while I bladefall from behind.


Drop conc for slower proj (proj increases both the initial projectile and the explosion), drop hoa for vitality, pick up more chaos nodes (173% life is pretty high for dl and they are stronger than the aoe nodes),chaos damage enchants add major damage as well, set up a wither totem, frost wall is for shotgunning kb explosions. Hope this helps.
Last edited by CasualK#2994 on Apr 17, 2016, 12:54:54 AM
Sorry if I missed it but has anyone come up with a quick and easy solution to the Single Target issue?

I've got both FrostWall Echo + Wither Totem and if I have to solo kill a boss, it's kinda painful. On the other hand, Single Target vs Bosses is SUPER good if they have minions around them cuz the Prolif ahd explosions just wrecks every boss, usually in 1 hit.
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Post screenshots of your stats please.

They are posted here in the forums, a few pages back.
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Anyone mind summarizing what I should do?

Are you playing SC or HC? It'll help us answer the Q for you
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Any reason you take so much energy shield in the tree?

The only ES nodes are hybrid ones and we pick those up just for life. There are 1 or two mandatory travel ones, but If there is a better path for more life while avoiding the ES ones, I'm all for it.
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I chose to go with dead eye (endless munitions) and will pick up powerful precision whenever I feel like doing merc lab. Raider also seems like a viable choice.Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks.

Currently I'm leveling as a pathfinder. More on this in a moment
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I'm quite puzzled. The last thing, you seem to imply that frost wall has offensive applications with KB.
So there is a gigantic difference in levels, I was 90+ in the video and you are 66. This represents damage, jewel levels + quality, accuracy, and especially added chaos % damage. As to how frost well helps damage, let me explain a bit more in detail. The way Kinetic blast works is it fires a projectile (or projectiles with GMP). Once those initial projectiles hit a target the send out mini explosions AROUND the target. This is why the single target damage sometimes seems poor, the explsions dont spawn on the hit target, the go around it. So what we do to solve this issue, is we use the pierce gem, and summon a frost wall(s) near our target. If we then shoot THROUGH the frost walls (by piercing) the explosions spawn right on the end of the frost wall, having a majority of them hit our target. This is called shotgunning and it is extremely powerful. The more walls, targets, objects you pierce, the more explosions you produce and the more damage the target takes.
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Sorry if I missed it but has anyone come up with a quick and easy solution to the Single Target issue?

For me, the single target is solved. Use echo+frost wall, curse vulnerability or temp chains, and use wither totem. This should produce enough damage, easily. Make sure you have these things also: Poison with your KB, Pierce with your KB, and enough accuracy to hit reliably. Also use your golem to tank while you set up your walls and totem.
***UPDATE***
Currently leveling / playing as a PATHFINDER Ranger in Perandus. Level 79. Ported my witch gear over, switch to Darkray Vectors (9 total frenzy charges, when fired up adding 18% dodge and 45% movespeed).

Main reason for trying Pathfinder - MASTER HERBALIST. (Your hits poison during flask effect) This opens up a link on our main skill (I'm using faster projectiles currently, slower proj did more dmg but I like faster better for now) and more importantly, it causes the Obliterate explosions to poison!! While the damage is not quite as good as the Elementalist, and the AoE is lower, the damage is still strong and feels more than ok, better than any other non Elementalist version I have tested so far. Additionally Vitality Void/Spirit Void cluster is just ridiculously good as it allows us to leech our chaos dmg from KB and we also attack considerably faster (frenzy charges etc) and sustainability isn't a problem. Lastly we get more frenzy charges than the Elementalist version and easier access to Acrobatics.

Arctic Armour and Grace reserved my mana and Stone Golem as my pet.

I was gaining 375 million xp/hour in merc dried lake, my new personal record. Under 9hrs total to level 75 with all labs completed, also a personal record.

Stats:
TOWN
4200 life
75/75/75/-21 resists
9000 evasion (45%evade chance), 11 block, 30 dodge (still have 10% dodge and 30% spell dodge to get)
205/sec regen
6300 tooltip dmg, 87% hit chance
28% move

Flasks + Frenzy charges up
4200 life
75/75/75/49 resists
32000 evasion (69%evade chance), 11 block, 48 dodge, 27% phys reduction
205/sec regen
17700 tooltip dmg, 87% hit chance
187% move

Very viable option, and much more defensive. I still have good flasks to buy/get (vinktars, taste of hate) all the dodge nodes behind acrobatics to get, and a good amount more life to get in the tree. Will report more back when I get some more levels

Character is Delavation, feel free to check out his profile for gear, links, tree
Last edited by getinthevan#7119 on Apr 17, 2016, 5:48:09 PM
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Last edited by Ghidet#6127 on Apr 17, 2016, 8:16:27 PM
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CasualK wrote:
Running a variation this build as a ranger in HC perandus. Was testing with charisma but the mana pool was too low to run dual 50%'s and kb consistently. Would probably either have to pick up a lvl 3 enlighten or primal spirit + mana flows. I chose to go with dead eye (endless munitions) and will pick up powerful precision whenever I feel like doing merc lab. Raider also seems like a viable choice.

I am currently running determination/HoA with IR but I dont feel like HoA is even needed. Build has 5.6%LR to sustain blood rage, 204% life w/ 4 jewel slots, sitting at around 5.7k hp and 23.5k armor with my current passive points.
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https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAICAABeAO4FLQceCC4OSA-rEZYT2hUgFr8ZihmOGbQbyCFgI_YkiyaIJpUppSpNLOktgy5TMHw1kjY9PydDMUSeR35JE0lRSshNkk3jU7tVS1WFWhpcQF3yYeJirGVNZdNqjGyMbWxuqnFDdO108XWedct67311hNmGs4fLieCNfY1-j_qTH5UulwabjZ2qotmjiqXLplenm7DYsQG1SLXytzC3trvjvTa-p7_VwUnDM8M6xKLIFMjczxXTb9N-2L3aweOE5ljoWupi7YPuDu968NX1b_aj_gr-Hf6P_ro=?accountName=CasualK&characterName=BlastinForFun


I am using 6l kb with gmp, pierce, poison, void manip, & added chaos. Also using wither totem, a CWDT setup and frostwall. I am still messing around with skill set ups.

I was initially running dual wands with twin terrors and the damage was pretty crazy, but I felt too squishy.

Final Planned build:
Spoiler
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAIAAJuNCC7tgxmOAF7Tfn1173r-uu4O9qO746OKFSDEoiP2LOktg5cGTZKNfYazAO4ZtBmKMHwqTb6nwzrI3D8nR-JlTXXLieAki8FJSsgi4r02t7bqYuZYD6v-HW6qpDlHfo1-kx9tbBa_tfKE2UMxSRM2PbVIJpVqjDWSv9XDM9rBVYWdqhvIYeL1b_6P2L1Tu1oaLlN07aXLbIzjhFVLyBRN4_4KRJ7TbwUtYqwOSKLZplfyRSFgeu9d8rcwEZaw2DrhdPHoWgceKaUmiJUu8NWP-klRXECHy6ebdZ7PFZu1hMXP3fGK


Gear:
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Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks.


Any ideas on scion ascendancy? Anything possiblly phc viable? I was thinking maybe deadeye + juggernaut for the armor and endurance charges with IR might be cool. What do you guys think?
any one try ED contagion with these wands
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lwlfive wrote:
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CasualK wrote:
Running a variation this build as a ranger in HC perandus. Was testing with charisma but the mana pool was too low to run dual 50%'s and kb consistently. Would probably either have to pick up a lvl 3 enlighten or primal spirit + mana flows. I chose to go with dead eye (endless munitions) and will pick up powerful precision whenever I feel like doing merc lab. Raider also seems like a viable choice.

I am currently running determination/HoA with IR but I dont feel like HoA is even needed. Build has 5.6%LR to sustain blood rage, 204% life w/ 4 jewel slots, sitting at around 5.7k hp and 23.5k armor with my current passive points.
Spoiler
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAICAABeAO4FLQceCC4OSA-rEZYT2hUgFr8ZihmOGbQbyCFgI_YkiyaIJpUppSpNLOktgy5TMHw1kjY9PydDMUSeR35JE0lRSshNkk3jU7tVS1WFWhpcQF3yYeJirGVNZdNqjGyMbWxuqnFDdO108XWedct67311hNmGs4fLieCNfY1-j_qTH5UulwabjZ2qotmjiqXLplenm7DYsQG1SLXytzC3trvjvTa-p7_VwUnDM8M6xKLIFMjczxXTb9N-2L3aweOE5ljoWupi7YPuDu968NX1b_aj_gr-Hf6P_ro=?accountName=CasualK&characterName=BlastinForFun


I am using 6l kb with gmp, pierce, poison, void manip, & added chaos. Also using wither totem, a CWDT setup and frostwall. I am still messing around with skill set ups.

I was initially running dual wands with twin terrors and the damage was pretty crazy, but I felt too squishy.

Final Planned build:
Spoiler
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAIAAJuNCC7tgxmOAF7Tfn1173r-uu4O9qO746OKFSDEoiP2LOktg5cGTZKNfYazAO4ZtBmKMHwqTb6nwzrI3D8nR-JlTXXLieAki8FJSsgi4r02t7bqYuZYD6v-HW6qpDlHfo1-kx9tbBa_tfKE2UMxSRM2PbVIJpVqjDWSv9XDM9rBVYWdqhvIYeL1b_6P2L1Tu1oaLlN07aXLbIzjhFVLyBRN4_4KRJ7TbwUtYqwOSKLZplfyRSFgeu9d8rcwEZaw2DrhdPHoWgceKaUmiJUu8NWP-klRXECHy6ebdZ7PFZu1hMXP3fGK


Gear:
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Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks.


Any ideas on scion ascendancy? Anything possiblly phc viable? I was thinking maybe deadeye + juggernaut for the armor and endurance charges with IR might be cool. What do you guys think?


Ok so i got 1 shot by quad dmg mod lmp devo's at 88 (i was trying to push the limits of the build, dont ask lmao) so i've kinda wanted to redo a dodge based build.

This is something similar to what I was running as a ranger but for scion (swapped IR for dodge).

Deadeye for sure. Other options I would consider are berserker, slayer, occultist, and assassin (although i would move some points around if you take this option)

Spoiler
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAAAAPKXe26bXZchqJrBfFpSe8OHB0rIbqo_J7XyKk01kgDu_o_YvSzpTeP-CoazFSCmV_JF9qMtgzrh73oZtO4O036-p6OKfXUAXmVNdcsj9v66GY69Nre26mJNko197YNHfo1-MHwILoTZQzF_K1FHwzPawUz_1oo31D7Pjb9aGi5TdO3WWO0_veYFtdQj028FLeCfwuwwcXrvBWZvJ7TF3aiaamKsS3hsjDpCnao2PVWFbWwbyKXLD6u1SOOEFr8OSCaVaoy3MBGWYeL1b-haBx5VS8gUJoiVLqLZ8NWw2I_6SVFcQIfLp5t1ns8Vz93xigAA


I am between rolling a raider with a similar build as this or doing some wonky block/bleed/poison glad.
Last edited by CasualK#2994 on Apr 18, 2016, 12:55:18 AM
Gladiator is ok, I'm doing fine in t8-t11 maps I alch and run. Ascendancy is the bleed explosion + spell block. Base block is 25%, Painforged gets +8 and with a rumi's spellblock is capped to 75%. Problem is I can't tell how much damage the bleed explosion (scaled by phys+area jewels, promise + toh, hatred, 15%x2 from obliteration) is doing when it's covered up by shatters + obliteration procs.

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