[2.2] ElPuppet's The Fabulous Octopus [Lightning Trap] - FAST, TANKY, DEATHLESS UBER, MASSIVE CLEAR

what stats should i have to try uber atziri? atm im still leveling and training normal atziri. normal atziri is pretty ok, but i think i should kill her faster if i want to have a chance at uber. im at 4k tooltip dps with wrath and flame golem, 5k life and arctic armor. even with more gem lvl, as they are only lvl 18, i dont see myself going over 6k dps. am i missing something or would that be a good tooltip?

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Sharkuuu wrote:

what stats should i have to try uber atziri? atm im still leveling and training normal atziri. normal atziri is pretty ok, but i think i should kill her faster if i want to have a chance at uber. im at 4k tooltip dps with wrath and flame golem, 5k life and arctic armor. even with more gem lvl, as they are only lvl 18, i dont see myself going over 6k dps. am i missing something or would that be a good tooltip?

Hey man!

Your survivability is fine, perhaps you want phase acro as well before you do it, a lot of people really do like having it before uber. I've actually only just hit on 5k hp at 92. That said, you do have a belly which is a totally fine choice.

You definitely want to hit some more damage before doing it though. My tooltip is at 9254.7 with Wrath up. Usually, even at the start of the league, when I hit 70, I'll keep an eye out for lvl20 gems to buy. They can be expensive early league, but by now you should pick some up without a doubt. Last check, both Wrath and Lightning Trap lvl20 corrupted are going for only a few chaos. The difference will be huge. After that, as I'm sure you know, you want to get a sixth link in there. All our support gems after cluster and poison are multipliers - each one adds a huge amount.

I did Uber first at 86 or 87 and at about 4.7k hp. When it comes down to it, all the fights are just patterns, so if you are well versed in uber go for it as soon as you're 85 and have the lvl20 gems to be honest.

Other things - get a CWDT setup going. Even just a CWDT 5 and Immortal Call 7 is fantastic for stopping burst ranged physical damage. In particular, it takes a huge amount of danger out of those vaal constructs. Also, Try and get your Blasphemy Temp Chains or Enfeeble going. There are some suggestions on the first page about how to do it without the helm enchant. It really is amazing for fast and safe map clearing and the trash in Alluring Abyss. In addition, it is hugely necessary for the 3 bosses in Alluring Abyss -

Double Vaals - Run circles around them with temp chains on them and they become far less threatening - much easier to react to.

Trio - So much easier to kite, much less danger. In my uber video on this thread, I accidentally killed the cycloner first. It wouldn't have been possible to kill the dual striker last had I not had temp chains.

Split Phase Atziri - Run around the clone you find most threatening. I run around the spear throwing clone. Keeping it slowed is a real boost in minimising damage and keeping it controlled during split phase.

thanks for the tips :)

i will buy the gems, never looked them up, thought they would be more expensiv. the belly is there for the start, after i find some more currencys i will upgrade to a lightning coil. a second voltaxic is laying in my stash and eating up all my fusings, i think after 6l a shavs my luck is gone :D

gem setups are a bit fucked up atm, dont need them for normal mapping and im just to lazy to fix it :D still thinking of the best way to implement the blasphemy, as i only got 400es i still need the mana. but i will definitely fix that before i even think of trying uber :)

i try to fix this till next weekend, maybe i will be ready to try uber for my first time then

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Sharkuuu wrote:

thanks for the tips :)

i will buy the gems, never looked them up, thought they would be more expensiv. the belly is there for the start, after i find some more currencys i will upgrade to a lightning coil. a second voltaxic is laying in my stash and eating up all my fusings, i think after 6l a shavs my luck is gone :D

gem setups are a bit fucked up atm, dont need them for normal mapping and im just to lazy to fix it :D still thinking of the best way to implement the blasphemy, as i only got 400es i still need the mana. but i will definitely fix that before i even think of trying uber :)

i try to fix this till next weekend, maybe i will be ready to try uber for my first time then

In that case, I would probably prioritise blasphemy over arctic armour. I still don't feel I have enough ES, but with skill duration etc Vaal Clarity is always available!

Did I miss it or did he not cover What he picked for Ascendency? Saboteur is obvious by his profile...

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Did I miss it or did he not cover What he picked for Ascendency? Saboteur is obvious by his profile...

He picked blinding assault, bomb specialist and chain reaction (u can see the choice from the skill tree of the character section profile)

I love the used music in the Videos soooo much :D

Right now I'm not sure what I want to do with my lvl 80 trapper. BF got me get bored :(
Maybe I will try the Octopus, but can you show inb4 your dmg and defense sheets?

There's a Ice Trap Conversion Build which looks also very entertaining and is also Uber viable. I need some kind of help for my discission (lol).

Question time:

Why don't you use a Vaal LT Setup? The shocked ground would be insane for the afterwards hitting ... erm... Octopussys.

Right now, without knowing, I would say your tool tip DPS is around 25kish?

im lvl 88 now, using a 6l shavs because i have it 4g2b. using controlled destruction for the second blue instead of void manipulation.

also thought about switching to ice trap, but i think ice trap cant compete with this. the clearspeed is just insane, rivaling my friends voltaspark totem, only time i have to slow down is when im out of es. singletarget might be better with icetrap, but up to t13 bosses are down in an instant. with all buffs up im at 10k tooltip dps, and i think the tooltip dps is per projectile. so hitting a boss with more than 4 projectiles is not hard and scales the dmg insane.

atziri is loughable easy and im working on some more lvls and better gear, because i want to be safe before i try uber. but dmg wise, this build i clearly capable of doing uber :)

tried uber for the first time, dindt made it :/ died like 5 times to double vaals because that damn lightning does some serious damage and after one of em died i got shrekt pretty hard by the extra speed. lost the last portal on trio, misplayed once and the flame double striker one shot me.

with a better vaal fight i would be able to kill trio and at least would have made it to atziri, but meh, maybe next time :)

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shahmat1972 wrote:

Did I miss it or did he not cover What he picked for Ascendency? Saboteur is obvious by his profile...

Chain Reaction + Blinding Assault. You could swap blinding assault out, but your choices aren't that great. I did see quite a few blinds going out in trash in Alluring Abyss, so I do feel that's the best choice. Also movement speed on the node before it too. Thanks for asking, I'll edit it in.

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I love the used music in the Videos soooo much :D

Right now I'm not sure what I want to do with my lvl 80 trapper. BF got me get bored :(
Maybe I will try the Octopus, but can you show inb4 your dmg and defense sheets?

There's a Ice Trap Conversion Build which looks also very entertaining and is also Uber viable. I need some kind of help for my discission (lol).

Question time:

Why don't you use a Vaal LT Setup? The shocked ground would be insane for the afterwards hitting ... erm... Octopussys.

Right now, without knowing, I would say your tool tip DPS is around 25kish?

Haha - I didn't intend for it to all be Shostakovich, but when I looked at piece lengths, they were the ones that fitted the best, and I could coordinate them with the end of the videos....



Nothing particularly special. Just normal Acro, Phase, Good HP, Lightning Coil, Temp Chains. I haven't died in a long long time, and I would feel safe in taking this build to 100 if that was what I was interested in. I feel the build is a faster clearer than the Ice Trap one, but not sure how single target competes.

With Vaal LT - I'm shocking everything whilst clearing anyway with Voltaxic. The only area I could see it being useful would be in killing split phase, double vaals or top end map bosses. To be honest, everything dies so quick that I just don't want to bother with more skills/upkeep, but it could be a good addition for the lesser geared (ie no lvl 21 gem) to make Uber just a bit faster. There are a lot of spare sockets/links that could be tailored to people's preferred CWDT or Vaal setups - in my opinion, never follow a guide specifically, haha!

My tooltip is 9254.7 average damage with Wrath up. I don't even know how to compare that to anything else to be honest, because the amount of projectiles hitting a single target would vary wildly.

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im lvl 88 now, using a 6l shavs because i have it 4g2b. using controlled destruction for the second blue instead of void manipulation.

also thought about switching to ice trap, but i think ice trap cant compete with this. the clearspeed is just insane, rivaling my friends voltaspark totem, only time i have to slow down is when im out of es. singletarget might be better with icetrap, but up to t13 bosses are down in an instant. with all buffs up im at 10k tooltip dps, and i think the tooltip dps is per projectile. so hitting a boss with more than 4 projectiles is not hard and scales the dmg insane.

atziri is loughable easy and im working on some more lvls and better gear, because i want to be safe before i try uber. but dmg wise, this build i clearly capable of doing uber :)

Thanks! I think this deserves a bit more coverage to be honest - the clear speed is just crazy. I think I'm clearing faster than my LA and Spark builds were. The mechanics of Lightning Trap are so cool.

Top end bosses disappear very quickly - double daresso is a bit of a joke. Just throw a few rounds of traps and run around. For your ES - are you using Vaal Clarity? I never have to stop pretty much with it.

Yeah, you can definitely notice the multiple projectiles hitting a single target when the stars align. Cluster Trap is just the coolest new support. I think I first did Uber at 87, at about 4600hp. If you know the fights well, it's just about getting enough damage!

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tried uber for the first time, dindt made it :/ died like 5 times to double vaals because that damn lightning does some serious damage and after one of em died i got shrekt pretty hard by the extra speed. lost the last portal on trio, misplayed once and the flame double striker one shot me.

with a better vaal fight i would be able to kill trio and at least would have made it to atziri, but meh, maybe next time :)

The ball lightning is just painful. There's two things to consider - one, when you know they're about to change into a different skill, pull away and prepare for the worst, in case you need to dodge ball lightning. Secondly, when they're in a phase that is safer for DPS, stick on them with your AA and Temp Chains. That will really maximise the time you get to DPS them.

Trio is just about staying safe and not taking risks. They never do anything unpredictable, so knock out the ranged one and then just play a safe kiting game. Make sure to drop the bosses in safe locations so as to not ruin the last bit of the fight for yourself. Also learning how to properly juke the bleed inflicting cleave is good to learn.

Really, it's always a bit of a blood pressure rise trying uber on a new build. As soon as you get to know it, it will be easy!


PS, sorry for taking a bit longer to respond this time - end of term here, and work has been nuts.