you lose a little bit of cast speed but gain Whirling Blades
isn't that well worth it? or do you REALLY need that one single cast speed roll?
Lightning Warp with Master of Discord, hello?
I don't see why you couldn't use Whirling Blades and Fortify and forgo a little cast speed (you could pick that up elsewhere - jewels etc). You still have Orb of Storms to proc Mastermind of Discord if you go that route so it's not like you *need* Lightning Warp.
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you lose a little bit of cast speed but gain Whirling Blades
isn't that well worth it? or do you REALLY need that one single cast speed roll?
Lightning Warp with Master of Discord, hello?
I don't see why you couldn't use Whirling Blades and Fortify and forgo a little cast speed (you could pick that up elsewhere - jewels etc). You still have Orb of Storms to proc Mastermind of Discord if you go that route so it's not like you *need* Lightning Warp.
From my experience with the fortify/WB setup in high tier maps (in HC leagues) - its rarely there, and most certainly never when you need it. In order to keep it up, you have to put yourself in more danger to utilize it = risk > reward from it
Lightning warp is actually FASTER than WB with the amount of cast speed this build grabs from dual scepters/wands. It requires a little more mouse positioning, but it's far safer for positioning - and keeps discord up near 100% of the time (whereas using whirling blades + orb of storms would be a entire other command you would have to input = greatly lowered clear speeds)
And the type of damage that we, as HC players, would be concerned with is the high physical spike damage, not the quick rapid succession smaller hits, which a moderate amount of mitigation is great for. But, the effect suffers from diminishing returns the higher the damage spike.
Armour suffers from diminishing returns vs high spikes as it doesn't give flat % damage reduction, the char sheet just gives an estimation for it. Here's a graph for it: https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/pathofexile.gamepedia.com/1/1e/ArmourReductionPlot.png?version=e6aa7884cfd6a5eef16149f3581bbd1c
but neither the 20% conversion or reduction from resistances suffer from diminishing returns. They're both just flat % values.
Oh wow, that's great! Thank you for that, sir. I was always curious. :)
And one less 5% life jewel.
6650 life with my normal setup (lvl 99)
But now why I think it's not worth it:
In 2.3 getting Paragon of Calamity will allow you to use Version III of this build (look it up in the main post). In that version you replace Purity of Fire with a second blasphemy curse. Your curses are also going to be buffed by 40% (assuming 20q blasphemy). This essentially allows you to run either a 40% buffed temporal chains or enfeeble (or even both if you don't mind giving up blasphemy). Let's take a look at them:
40% buffed 20/20 Enfeeble:
Cursed enemies have -42% to Critical Strike Multiplier
Cursed enemies deal 42% less Damage
Cursed enemies have 37% reduced Critical Strike Chance
Cursed enemies have 54% reduced Accuracy Rating
40% buffed 20/20 Temporal Chains:
Cursed enemies are 54% slower
I'm pretty sure this is a vastly better option than getting 1k more life.
What do you think about going BM till you get good Elreon jewelry (60+ life)? The dual Blasphemy version seems vastly superior but I don't wanna use some garbage no hp/res rings on day 1/2 :/, prob won't have enough points for dual curse anyway till 85-90.
Last edited by souldemise#2295 on Jun 2, 2016, 3:27:02 AM
you lose a little bit of cast speed but gain Whirling Blades
isn't that well worth it? or do you REALLY need that one single cast speed roll?
I tried whirling blades with this build (27% ias dagger) and it's just not good, likely because we don't have any ias nodes. It already is slower than LW for us, and then it's getting nerfed in 2.3. Not to mention Mastermind of Discord.
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souldemise wrote:
What do you think about going BM till you get good Elreon jewelry (60+ life)? The dual Blasphemy version seems vastly superior but I don't wanna use some garbage no hp/res rings on day 1/2 :/, prob won't have enough points for dual curse anyway till 85-90.
It works, sure, you just lose auras. Alternatively you could just use a mana flask and drop AA (run only PoF and blasphemy).
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Calgus wrote:
Has anyone tried this out on Atziri?
Super tempted to run this as my first character in the new league, but I use my first character to farm for setting up uber runs
Well I killed atziri once with this build. One shot vaals, one shot trio, used RotP for atziri. It's ok, probably not the best atziri build out here, though.
Hi sivluu, im having trouble with crematorium and Village ruin map boss. Since i cant one shot them or sometime because i cant Ignite on first hit and they just 2 shot me.
