[2.2] The Wild Spellblade | Elementalist | Pure Elemental Wild Striker
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So I have made it through merciless lab with my witch using Hyaon's Fury on a four link. I have seen a tooltip dps of around 15k when I have everything proced. This doesn't include the extra damage from shock, conductivity, penetration, and a few other passives from my tree. Is is nice to see guys burning pretty fast when elemental conflux is up. Can't wait to get a five link so I can use added lightning. I can also handle tier 4 maps but have not tried anything higher. Herald of thunder works great for cursing and I dual curse with warlords mark and conductivity (if I need more defense I use enfeeble). I have over 7k combined life and shield and am a few levels from ghost reaver (this should help a lot with survival especially with Vaal pact when I get it). Once I figure out how to post a tree I will add mine in ( if I am motivated I will record a video also).
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" Ok so, today I respecced (like 30 regrets) and went for Lightning damage and some other stuff... With Hyaon's fury my DPS went from 13k (with buffs active and a shitty dagger) to 35k (with everything on). There were a few problems tho, Hyaon's Fury Increased Received Damage is a bitch, specially without good mitigation (armor or evasion or dodge). But this can be worked with better gear... Also, to post a tree, just click on any of my tree links and click Reset, then build your tree, copy the link above paste it on a comment in between the URL tags. That's that. However I finally understood something very important about Mastermind of Discord. MASTERMIND OF DISCORD TRIGGERS ON SKILL USE: Obviously, but this means a few things... 1 - This means that you need to use a skill (attack or spell) that has the propriety Cold/Lightning/Fire to trigger the opposite Penetration buff. 2 - The buff lasts 4 seconds after a skill of X Element was used. 3 - I believe I read before that Trigger Skills do not affect abilities that require you to USE a Skill, so no CoDT, no CoC, none of that crap. 4 - This means that I don't even know if Wild Strike works with it... It has all 3 proprieties, but only on its secondary effect - more on this later where I talk about Wild Strike briefly. 5 - It also means, that it doesn't matter if you did DAMAGE of X Element, just USED a SKILL of X Element... I.e cast Orb of Storms before Fire Storm, even if Orb of Storm doesn't hits anything, for 4 seconds you get the Fire Pen buff. 6 - With Hyaon's Fury it is Sub-optimal to run Wild Strike (it works, don't get me wrong) but you'll get a lot more benefit from Frost Blades, since you're ALWAYS casting a COLD SKILL then that means you'll ALWAYS get 20% Light Pen, which is where your damage comes from. As opposed to Wild Strike, this only happens 1/3 of the time, and while yes, you do attack fast, and yes you do have Multi-Strike it still has a chance (specially when getting into a mob for the first time) that you'll not have the Light Pen when you need the damage. But again, I think Wild Strike is probably passable - read below on how this skill works... 7 - Also on Hyaon's Fury, you need a few things to make it work well, or as well as it could, such as... Speccing only into Elemental/Lightning damage nodes (ignore the ones that give you Phys, unless they have something useful like Attack Speed, or Crit Chance, but even then, consider the nodes leading to it as well. Also you need some kind of mitigation to counter the Extra Damage Received portion, Dodge might be the best option, Acrobatics/Phase, Hyrri's Ire, Blood Dance/Dark Vectors works pretty nice, I had 2.7k HP with that gear and was doing wonders on Merc Dried Lake at lvl 69/70, what could kill me was Voll one shotting, since my HP was so low (again, I just specced to see what Hyaon's could do). And lastly, you need some form of Frenzy Charges generation and +Max Frenzy Charges to get the best out of this beast. At which point it gets really hard to make a tree up... I'll link up a few ideas later down in this post. 8 - All of this means that if you want the best out of Mastermind of Discord, while using WS (assuming it works) then you need to scale All Elemental Damage up, you can do this by scaling Physical Damage (gets converted on Wild Strike use) or just Elemental Damage Nodes, in other words you should try and find a High Physical Dagger rather than using Hyaon's (again, not that you can't just sub-optimal). ==Wild Strike== ==Ignore this== With the help of DHendrix999 Wild Strike (even without hitting anybody, so no trigger skills) counts as all 3 Elements from the get go, so you DO get the Penetration for all of them right from the get go. So it's worth to use it even with Hyaon's Fury, but I still am a firm believer that you can scale Frost Blades better, by pumping Lightning Elemental Damage to it. Wild Strike might be better for Phys Daggers, also Single Target I guess, but It's worst than Double Strike.
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So, first you have the Physical Melee Attack, which triggers a secondary effect, be it the Chain Lightning, 3 Freezing Pulses or the Fire Blast.
Which means that I don't know if that counts as you USING a skill of X element, of it doesn't counts because it is a triggered effect... So here's some trees that I slapped together... Pure ES with Auras on Life =====Careful!===== I still have to confirm whether or not Vaal Pact Leech + Ghost Reaver is bugged or not... So this might be a terrible build at the moment. If you guys can test it out and give me results, I'll remove or bold this warning.
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You can only do this with Capped Chaos Res, or Solaris Lorica or Shavronne's Wrappings. And since getting 5L or 6L of those are pretty harsh, you might want to avoid this one.
Also don't forget you NEED ES, so if your gear caps you on All Res and Chaos Res, it's meaningless if you end up with 3k ES with Discipline on... So try to get as much ES on gear as possible too. Gear
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You'll want 135% Chaos Res (75% on Merc), or a Shav (5L minimum) or a Solaris (5L minimum).
You'll want a solid PDPS(200+) or at least DPS Dagger (300+ probably). One with Elemental Damage with Weapons / Attack Speed / Accuracy / Crit Chance... Whatever combination of these you can find. Also 135% on All Res (75% on Merc). Weapon Elemental Damage with Weapons on > Ring / Weapon / Belt (try for a Rustic Sash) / Master Craft on Shield if possible. Sometimes it's better to get Flat Elemental Damage on Rings and Weapon, depending on your numbers, test it out check what works best, it might be cheaper too. You NEED high ES, at least 6k or so... So watch out when getting your gear, it can be a bitch... Get as much stat on all the pieces (leave damage aside if you have to), then on your Chest Piece you can focus on having just a bit of Res (if you still need) and a LOT of Eva/ES or Armor/ES. And last but not least you need Eye of Chayula, thankfully it's super cheap. Don't start going WS until you have this... On your Helm you should have Accuracy (minimum of 200 or so). Attack speed or Accuracy on Gloves. ES on Belt and Rings. Pro Tip: Try to get a Angelic Kite Shield, these have implicit 12% All Res, it's going to be the key to maxing your resists out. Also get one with High ES, 200+. Gems
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Wild Strike - Multistrike - Weapon Elemental Damage - Added Fire - Faster Attacks/Phys to Lightning - Lightning Pen/Life Leech/Added Lightning
Whirling Blades - Faster Attacks - Fortify Blasphemy - Warlords Mark Hatred - Herald of Fire - Discipline - Enlighten CoDT(lvl 10) - GMP - Arctic Breath - Ice Golem CoDT(lvl 10) - Inc Duration - Immortal Call - Enduring Cry Instead of one or both of the CoDT you could run these auras on Life Grace/Determination/Herald of Ice/Herald of Lightning/Wrath/Anger. http://www.poeplanner.com/AAAABAMCAVfiMol35Sj6DXzr7uq618_5N--ISbHYJASzGF2t8aIAjDa0DEZxbAumvonTcFJUR1ZIga-40No6sQVXyeywjAu5fKcID6tQQoMJUzUWv-0g4XOCmyL0vorK06EvS64bJdlbbWzpAt-KlS5JUfDVBx61SOd0uJMc3I8aMtFFR5Mnf8ZtGRGWwGbbGhB7vjrrYxEvKwpd8ioLj_rQ0F9qEVA1uacrNsWLegFv4veESFxrw21o8jzvkBvb1HBWmhMki8M6KjgZivsJ9toajyLqLVXp_gV9RwbYdlb1226X0I6KkPrfbUyL70sXpBM1 Hybrid solution to less rich people
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This is for you who can't afford 75% Chaos Res with High ES (6k or above), but keep in mind you don't want to run Auras on Life, if you do, try to have at least 3k HP unreserved... This also works without any ES, since you get 190% Max Life... So you could go Pure Evasion on items.
Gear
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You want life, most of all, whatever ES you get, great, but don't sweat it too much. Always get pieces with Life on it, Max out your Resistances (135% to be maxed on Merciless).
You want Accuracy on Helmet (200 minimum). You want Accuracy OR Attack Speed on Gloves. Elemental Damage with Weapons on > Weapon / Rings / Belt (try for a Rustic Sash or Leather Belt) / Master Craft on Shield if possible / Amulet You don't want to use Eye of Chayula, unless you have High ES (4k+). Shield try to go for an Angelic Kite Shield, it should help you out with maxing your Res, and you can find some with high ES too, but remember you don't need to prioritize ES as much. A Dagger with High PDPS(200+) or DPS (300+), with Attack Speed, Elemental Damage on Weapons, Crit Chance/Accuracy/Flat Elemental Damage. Belt with Life/Res/Ele Res/ Weapon Ele Damage - Rustic or Leather. Amulet with Crit Chance/Life/Res/Flat Ele Damage/Weapon Elemental Damage. Gems
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Wild Strike - Multi Strike - Weapon Elemental Damage - Added Fire - Faster Attacks/Phys to Lightning - Added Lightning/Lightning Pen/Life Leech
Whirling Blades - Faster Attacks - Fortify Hatred - Herald of Fire - Enlighten - Grace/Determination - Discipline is optional, good if you have an already solid ES Blasphemy - Warlord's Mark CoDT(lvl 10) - GMP - Arctic Breath - Ice Golem CoDT(lvl 10) - Increased Duration - Immortal Call - Blood Rage (only if you can sustain it, also keep watch with this, you can die just from the degen this causes) / Enduring Cry http://www.poeplanner.com/AAAABAMCAVfiMol35Sj6wzoi6g186-4nLxo4kFXqumHiVUsmlWKsnapsjNfP-TfviEmx2CTwHwSzGF2t8aIAjDa0DEZxbAumvonTcFJURyo4VkiBr7jQ2jqxBVfJOtgaj_ba-wnssIwLuXwZiqcIU1Ka4EWdD6uDCTY9Fr_tIOFzgpsi9L6KytOhL0uuGyXZW21s6QKyGTIBz3rfiujWtUi4kxzcjxoy0ZsmRUeTJ20ZwGaCx_noQYe3Pv4K2L3yRTrhpld_xhGWBx6VLvDVSVGQG3BWmhPb1CoLXfIOSC1V6f4FfSSLMZ5N4_6PNZKQ-t9tTIvvSxekEzU= Hyaon's Fury option
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You're not gonna be using WS on this one, it's possible, but instead it's better to use Frost Blades... Also it's very point heavy, I haven't figured out how to dry it out a bit... So if you know what to do, just remove things here and there to fit your level/points. With Hyaon's Fury you def want the Frenzy Nodes, and since you have those, you might as well go for Acro, this coupled with some more dodge items is quite nice.
Gear
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Obviously you want Hyaon's Fury, or at the very least a REALLY high Lightning Damage Foil with Weapon Elemental Damage and Attack Speed.
Blood Dance are also a must. You'll probably want a 5L Hyrri's Ire, but until then, any Eva or Eva/ES will work. Daresso's Defiance also works, same with Queen of the Forest. But Hyrri's Ire is the best one. Helm with Accuracy (200+). Glove with Accuracy or Atk Spd. Belt can be Leather, since Hyaon's has absolutely shit Phys Damage it's kinda pointless to scale it, so you get more from a Leather/Heavy with Elemental Damage with Weapons Life and Resists. Angelic Kite Shield is a great option to cap your Res with, craft Elemental Damage with Weapons if you can. Gems
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Frost Blades - Multi Strike - Added Lightning - Weapon Elemental Damage - Faster Attacks/Lightning Pen/Chain - Cold to Lightning/Chain.
I'm not an expert on Frost Blades, nor anything for that matter, but you want to scale as much Lightning Damage as possible in here, Phys to Lightning is kinda bad since you have no Phys Damage on Tree or Weapon, same thing for Added Fire, but test it out, maybe it's better than I think it is. Also Chain is probably a great 5th link... Again, test it out. Whirling Blades/Leap Slam - Faster Attacks - Fortify (problem with Leap Slam is you lack the Strength so you might not be able to level it to 20. Wrath - Herald of Thunder - Enlighten - Grace/Discipline (if you have solid ES) Blasphemy - Warlord's Mark CoDT(lvl 10) - GMP - Arctic Breath - Ice Golem CoDT(lvl 10) - Increased Duration - Immortal Call - Blood Rage/Enduring Cry (if you can't sustain Blood Rage) Also not a bad idea to swap one of the CoDT for Increased Duration Vaal Haste and Vaal Grace. http://www.poeplanner.com/AAAABAMBAd-K6QJLrhsl2VttGSL0bAuTJ--I-TfXz0mxjDZUR6a-idNwUqXLbWzssIwLuXy1SBa_53To1gW1jb9RR-dUJP3_3j7PveY31O0_MHzUUsv1MbDcvecPvorK07QM6roNfKEvV8ko-oGvuNDaOrEFuJMc3I8a6-6nCNgkVkgy0UVHwGat8RhdBLOiAOFz7SBX4nflgpsyiUZxgwl_xhGWk5WtMxnX8NVJUQcelS5VhTY98B8mlWHiVUudqmyMYqzUIzBx3ahLeDpCjX0j9k2SIurDOio4GYr7CfbaGo-a4EWdU1JTNVBCD6s62CcvkFUaOA== Hyaon's Fury alternate
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A lot more concise with points, but in your curses you'll want to run Poacher's Mark instead of Warlor's. This allows you to spec out of Vaal Pact (unfortunately with this build you also lose the Aura Nodes), and instead focus on a more survivable style.
Gear
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With Poacher's Mark it also means you can retire the Blood Dance, and instead get Dark Vectors.
Aside from that, same as the other Hyaon's above. Gems
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Same as previous, just swap Warlord's Mark for Poacher's Mark.
http://www.poeplanner.com/AAAABAMBAd-K6QJLrhsl2VttGSL0bAuTJ--I-TfXz0mxjDZUR6a-idNwUqXLbWzssIwLuXy1SBa_53To1gW1jb9RR-dUJP3_3j7PveY31O0_MHzUUsv1MbDcvecPvorK07QM6roNfKEvV8ko-oGvuNDaOrEFuJMc3I8a6-6nCNgkVkgy0UVHwGat8RhdBLOiAOFz7SBX4nflgpsyiUZxgwl_xhGWk5WtMxnX8NVJUQcelS5VhTY98B8mlWHiVUudqmyMYqzUIzBx3ahLeDpCjX0j9k2SmuBFnVNSUzVQQg-rOtgnL5BVGjibJjIBshnPeg== That's that I think? Might edit this post if I remember something or someone points something out... Last edited by Hlokk#6714 on Mar 19, 2016, 9:33:19 PM
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" So I finally got smart and looked at the skill screen on the offense tab for both wild strike and ice crash. As you mentioned ice crash will show a +20 to lightning penetration for 4 seconds when you use the skill (I just hit the air so it is on use not on hit). However this method also proves that wildstrike makes all three penetrations have +20. This means that wild strike works great focusing on lightning penetration with Hyaon's Fury. Frost blades will be awesome also and I might test it out to see what has better clear speed. My guess is that wildstrike is the better boss killer and frost blades will take out the trash faster. Ice crash might be a great option also. On a side note since wildstrike enables Matermind of Dischord another single target option might be elemental hit. Just worth looking into. I think a high rolled physical dagger will be better in the long run but I got my Hyaon's Fury for 2 chaos instead of several exalts for a great dagger. So far I have made it to level 80 and can clear tier 5 maps with ease. I have a tier 7 map I will try later tonight. I don't focus on frenzy charges but sometimes I get them from the cluster behind conduit but since I only have 3 the damage is not too bad. The other thing that helps is using whirling blades to manually dodge the bigger hits since I have low armor and evasion chance (both around 10%). Warlords Mark with ghost reaver works really well. Just can't wait to get Aegis Aurora as my shield and a lightning version of Doryani's belt. Also aiming for life leech on my boots but so far no luck. I use ancestral protector for the attack speed buff and thinking of switching out ice golem for chaos golem for even more sustainability (if my accuracy doesn't drop too much, right now I lose 1% to hit when I remove him). |
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" Nice, that's really good to know. My biggest problem remains against Hyaon's like you said, without Armor and Eva, it's a bit risky (not too much), cuz hits will really hurt you up with some Frenzy Charges... Without Acro it's tough >: Edit: Also I would flipping love if you could see as a buff Mastermind of Discord and Pendulum of Destruction.... Last edited by Hlokk#6714 on Mar 19, 2016, 8:35:46 PM
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Too bad there is not a Video.
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" Myeah, it would seem OP has abandoned this ship. I'm trying my best to offer what info I have, and testing what I can, but limited time playing on my char and equipment/budget constraints stop me from being able to give absolutely accurate information... Were it not for that I might consider opening a thread of my own and keep it updated... |
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Hmm that's sad.. Hlokk could you show me your Gear ur using ?
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" You really shouldn't base yourself on my gear, I'm getting like, shitty gear slapped together just for testing purposes, once my main character gets to a bit higher level I'll actually transition, then I'll be able to give some examples of gear... |
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" No idea if this has been answered or not, but if you take EE, you need to make sure you do not have any added elemental damage on your gear. Plus, added elemental damage can scale quite well. So without considering gear, it's a great surplus. But with it, it gets a pain to gear up and possibly be even worse in terms of dps when you stack up on added damage. Great PoE utilities!
Aura Calculator: https://poe.mikelat.com/ Vorici Chromatic Calculator: http://siveran.github.io/calc.html One-shot calculator: https://goo.gl/IJhYDx |
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My characters are open for anyone to view so if you want to see my gear just click on my portrait and select mycharacter named Radiance_of_Defiance. It should also show my passive tree I believe. Not the fastest clear sped but it is a lot of fun and I have only had one death when a Perandus chest was in the bosses room with Shock and Awe once I got my immortal call and warlords Mark gems (hard to get as a melee witch in a new league.
Last edited by DHendrix99#2725 on Mar 21, 2016, 10:16:53 PM
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