2.1 Conta/Ess Drain = The Purple Puragu : cheap and effective Atziri killer/mapper (SC/HC)

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LaRevenant wrote:
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Kagari wrote:
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Lukin wrote:
What do you think about The consuming dark dagger instead of binos?


I think i would have to try to test it but the increased poison damage from the gem is worth keeping.


So I did some research and with the consuming dark you can spam essence drain and it will take the target down a little faster because of using poison without having to use the gem. It seems like a really good option for those who are only using a 5 link and is better than dropping one of the other gems like slower proj/rapid decay to use poison. For those with consuming dark and a 6th link I am not sure what would be good to go in there. Maybe an empower would be good as a 6th link but I don't have either this league to test and would have to go into my standard stash to possible test.

Granted I am going acro with grace aura and using arctic armor and not blasphemy but instead a cwdt curse. I might end up going cdwt dual curse and drop some nodes but I am not entirely sure yet. So my ideas might work better with my build since it is more defensive and is going to probably use frenzy charges and blood dance end game. Still have some tinkering with my tree and gear before I figure out what is best. Although I'd say that a good spell damage wand/dagger and a shield are definitely the way to go until you can afford a bino's.

Either way this build is strong no matter which way you go when I was leveling I was doing areas 5+ levels above me solo with little effort using only a 3 link and all self found gear.

If anyone can back up or refute my claims please do. I'd like some people testing different things to see if what I said was right or I am just crazy. Also I apologize in advance kagari I don't want you to feel like I am stealing your thread. :)


Im really curious about the results you ll have using the consuming dagger. As a a 6th gem, i think a 20% added chaos might be better than empower. I don';t have anything to prove this, only that i found the damage difference way lower than i thought it would be when my ED gem went from lvl 19 to 20(i made decay/controlled destruction and Void 20% and it made a really big damage boost though).Consuming dark will let you replace the poison gem, yes, but at the cost of a reduced poison dot.

anyway, please let me know about your results we could all learn interesting stuff.
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Can i run this build with CI ?
i tried binos and personally i dont think is that good because the aoe from the poison is so small besides that u lose dps ( almost 3k in my case ). I would say that it could be good if u have a carcass jack as well if not i think double wand or wand shield could be better
Seems to me both Consuming Dark and Bino's are good options. I've tried both and am using Consuming Dark. I think the best option for damage would be a high spell damage wand though. I don't think either of the mechanics on them compensate for the raw damage a high spell power wand could bring. But of course I could be totally off.

Also I really think the poison mechanic is interesting it's just so hard to measure it's effectiveness.
May I ask for your updated Bino's skill tree? I read that you are using now Fatal Toxins. Thanks!
Well looks like the effectiveness of this build using poison is all but dead according to the latest patch notes:

Fixed a bug where skills (from both players and monsters) which dealt chaos damage over time were doing far too much damage when supported by Poison.

Wonder how this is going to affect the overall build. Dropping the poison gem and using something else might be more viable but won't know more until the patch hits.

Edit: I guess it only affect people that were using poison to stack DoTs on CA and in using consuming dark. I don't know the overall effects of it to the build though and if you are only hitting enemies with 1 ED projectile hopefully it doesn't negatively effect the damage.
Last edited by LaRevenant#5511 on Dec 23, 2015, 12:44:59 AM
Essence Drain and Caustic Arrow linked with Poison support were doing poison damage based off the DoT portion of their damage instead of just the initial hit. Now Essence drain correctly only does poison damage based off the initial hit, so the poison damage is significantly lower.
Ok i did a few tests after the patch and...well that hurts pretty bad :(

Contagion spreading through walls was fun but i knew it was going to be fixed.
Poison maybe deserved a nerf but this nerf is a bit harsh imo.

After a quick test session with weapons, the good news is: bino(and i think consuming dark) are worthless for the overall clear speed now. Grab a wand.
Poison support gem still performs well on single target but it's damage is far from what it was.

I tried a lvl 19 added chaos instead of slower proj to try to get the poison dot back but the loss of damage on the ED dot doesn't cover it at all.

Even though i was planning to reroll as i hit lvl 90 on this char, Im a bit salty.


TL;DR: Overall mapping clear speed remains barely untouched but single target damage is divided by a crazy amount.
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xour wrote:
May I ask for your updated Bino's skill tree? I read that you are using now Fatal Toxins. Thanks!


Updated the main guide with the tree.


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Can i run this build with CI ?


Yes without a doubt.
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From a few Voll runs I did with my 75 ED shadow in HC I'd suggest people to drop the poison gem/unspec from poison in the tree and use slower proj as their 5th link.
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