[2.4 Trickster] Grocery's Caustic Arrow Trickster Shadow! HC Viable!

I see,thanks a lot.
so the only stats to look for in bow are
+2 to bow gems
+1 gems
+% dot?



If I don't what to get drillneck and skip pierce, because its expensive what else should I get in tree and what quiver?


And why did you take projectile damage if caustic arrow doesn't count as projectile?
Last edited by Inferius90#2484 on Dec 15, 2015, 8:44:27 AM
It does count as projectile damage. Put slower projectile damage gem in and watch your cloud dps. then remove it. You'll notice the projectile damage matters.
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Inferius90 wrote:
so the only stats to look for in bow are
+2 to bow gems
+1 gems
+% dot?



If I don't what to get drillneck and skip pierce, because its expensive what else should I get in tree and what quiver?


And why did you take projectile damage if caustic arrow doesn't count as projectile?


Slower Proj works because proj damage works with cloud dps, as does chaos damage, DoT Damage, % Damage, etc.

With rgards to bow it wouldbe +1, +2, Leo % DoT mod, then IAS, then resistances.

IAS is not neeed but is nice for quality of life and utility. Shoot quicker means you don't stand still as long.
For my current builds, thoughts and videos.
youtube.com/andypistone
www.twitch.tv/GrocerySC
Hey, I just wanted to thank you for the guide. I usually only use the forums to gather ideas and not really carbon copy builds. So, playing around with the skill tree I was wondering, why did you choose not to go up and grab Growth and Decay, Atrophy and Force Shaper? Also, there are two big life nodes (Written in Blood and Melding).

Spoiler
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwYAAx4FtQceDY0OSBEvEZYTbRQJFe0WvxvIH0Ei6iP2JogmlSpbMHEwfDIBNj06QklRSbFKfUt4TZJRR1LsVL1VS1xAYeJh62KsZ6BqjGyMdZ52gnpTf8aCXod2h8uJ4I19jb-P-pMfkyeVLpaLmyadqqLZo4qnm7DYshm0xbTRtUi3MMLswzrIDMgUy73PFc961CPVudfP3ajjhOOf5ljmgejW62PuDu-I8NX1b_k3_MU=


And also, I needed an insight on Caustic Arrow, since I never played it before. For what I've seen, the phys portion of the damage doesn't really help much later on, no? Having that in mind, the nodes that are paramount to the build are Chaos Damage and DoT. Am I right here?

Cheers!
Potato girl keeps on runnin'
I am leveling with this build and it feels slow.

Currently, I am level 43 playing with CA + ConcEffect + RapidDecay + VoidMan with a +1 to level of gems bow.
My cloud dps tooltip is ~660. I also curse bosses with Vulnerability but it's slow.

The fact that mobs get out of the cloud is frustrating. I use arctic armour to slow them down

Am I missing something? Thanks.
"Embrace the darkness"
Last edited by jerkan7#6100 on Dec 15, 2015, 10:02:51 AM
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scabre89 wrote:
Hey, I just wanted to thank you for the guide. I usually only use the forums to gather ideas and not really carbon copy builds. So, playing around with the skill tree I was wondering, why did you choose not to go up and grab Growth and Decay, Atrophy and Force Shaper? Also, there are two big life nodes (Written in Blood and Melding).

Spoiler
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwYAAx4FtQceDY0OSBEvEZYTbRQJFe0WvxvIH0Ei6iP2JogmlSpbMHEwfDIBNj06QklRSbFKfUt4TZJRR1LsVL1VS1xAYeJh62KsZ6BqjGyMdZ52gnpTf8aCXod2h8uJ4I19jb-P-pMfkyeVLpaLmyadqqLZo4qnm7DYshm0xbTRtUi3MMLswzrIDMgUy73PFc961CPVudfP3ajjhOOf5ljmgejW62PuDu-I8NX1b_k3_MU=


And also, I needed an insight on Caustic Arrow, since I never played it before. For what I've seen, the phys portion of the damage doesn't really help much later on, no? Having that in mind, the nodes that are paramount to the build are Chaos Damage and DoT. Am I right here?

Cheers!


Force Shaper does nothing. We don't do physical damage outside of the initial hit which does like no damage. It ends up being a massive waste of points!

Melding sucks big ones. Not worth it imo.

I do take Growth and Decay and Atrophy. What trees are you looking at? One of them might be bugged. I don't take them until a bit later on though as it is a dead end. I also take written in blood.

The phys portion literally only affects the base hit, which is affected by weapon dps and base damage rolls, which we do not go for and if we did, would be a bad choice. Chaos Damage, Damage over Time and Projectile Damage nodes are key :)

For my current builds, thoughts and videos.
youtube.com/andypistone
www.twitch.tv/GrocerySC
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jerkan7 wrote:
I am leveling with this build and it feels slow.

Currently, I am level 43 playing with CA + ConcEffect + RapidDecay + VoidMan with a +1 to level of gems bow.
My cloud dps tooltip is ~660. I also curse bosses with Vulnerability but it's slow.

The fact that mobs get out of the cloud is frustrating. I use arctic armour to slow them down

Am I missing something? Thanks.


Arctic armor to slow them down as ranged is probably a bad idea. It doesn't it do it very well unless you are melee.

Your character profile is also set to private so I can't help as much if I can't see what all you are working with.

You probably want to take some damage nodes earlier if you have issues. Most others in this thread aren't having issues, so I would like to compare what you are doing vs them to fix it.
For my current builds, thoughts and videos.
youtube.com/andypistone
www.twitch.tv/GrocerySC
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Grocery wrote:
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jerkan7 wrote:
I am leveling with this build and it feels slow.

Currently, I am level 43 playing with CA + ConcEffect + RapidDecay + VoidMan with a +1 to level of gems bow.
My cloud dps tooltip is ~660. I also curse bosses with Vulnerability but it's slow.

The fact that mobs get out of the cloud is frustrating. I use arctic armour to slow them down

Am I missing something? Thanks.


Arctic armor to slow them down as ranged is probably a bad idea. It doesn't it do it very well unless you are melee.

Your character profile is also set to private so I can't help as much if I can't see what all you are working with.

You probably want to take some damage nodes earlier if you have issues. Most others in this thread aren't having issues, so I would like to compare what you are doing vs them to fix it.


You should see it now. Thanks!
"Embrace the darkness"
You have pretty similar stats to Derrf in this thread who was saying he was not having an issue at all.

Your DPS is going to be over 1k when you factor in conc effect, as it is not shown on the tooltip.

That should be more than enough for your level. It looks like it is actually more than Derrf at the time he was at that level.

If the AoE of the cloud is frustrating, use a different gem. Though CA usually requires you to circle a bit on high hp mobs to keep them in the cloud.
For my current builds, thoughts and videos.
youtube.com/andypistone
www.twitch.tv/GrocerySC

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