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AmphoraLM wrote:
Hi, just wanted to say that im lvling my shadow on talisman with this build and the clear speed is amazing and didnt have any troubles so far. My question is if conc efect is really that effective. i tested conc efect and inc aoe on a 4L +2 bow and id say inc aoe is better in my levels (65-70). Just want to know if conc efect is really that effective or i should go with inc aoe. Thanks!
It is up to you. I prefer conc effect some prefer AoE. Concentrated effective is a massive multiplicative increase and the loss of some aoe. AoE gives more area.
If you have dps problems go with Conc Effective (or you are going to do uber and need all the dps you can get).
I you do not have DPS problems and want the QoL that Inc AoE gives, go with it. No 100% right answer!
For my current builds, thoughts and videos.
youtube.com/andypistone
www.twitch.tv/GrocerySC
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Posted byGrocery#5050on Dec 14, 2015, 6:35:36 PM
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AmphoraLM wrote:
Hi, just wanted to say that im lvling my shadow on talisman with this build and the clear speed is amazing and didnt have any troubles so far. My question is if conc efect is really that effective. i tested conc efect and inc aoe on a 4L +2 bow and id say inc aoe is better in my levels (65-70). Just want to know if conc efect is really that effective or i should go with inc aoe. Thanks!
It is up to you. I prefer conc effect some prefer AoE. Concentrated effective is a massive multiplicative increase and the loss of some aoe. AoE gives more area.
If you have dps problems go with Conc Effective (or you are going to do uber and need all the dps you can get).
I you do not have DPS problems and want the QoL that Inc AoE gives, go with it. No 100% right answer!
I was having issues with cloud size cause of conc. Conc does add a grip of damage but to get around the decrease of air I am using a quiver with +aoe size and I have a Jewell that has aoe size increase. There are ways around it for sure.
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Posted byderff87#5755on Dec 14, 2015, 7:45:56 PM
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Hey Grocery have you thought about Spell Totel + Wither + Faster Casting + Increase Duration for better single target?
Also if I don't have Lightning coil + taste of hate, do you think Daresso's + Iron Reflex/Grace + Granite flask would be just as effective against physical damage?
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Grocery wrote:
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AmphoraLM wrote:
Hi, just wanted to say that im lvling my shadow on talisman with this build and the clear speed is amazing and didnt have any troubles so far. My question is if conc efect is really that effective. i tested conc efect and inc aoe on a 4L +2 bow and id say inc aoe is better in my levels (65-70). Just want to know if conc efect is really that effective or i should go with inc aoe. Thanks!
It is up to you. I prefer conc effect some prefer AoE. Concentrated effective is a massive multiplicative increase and the loss of some aoe. AoE gives more area.
If you have dps problems go with Conc Effective (or you are going to do uber and need all the dps you can get).
I you do not have DPS problems and want the QoL that Inc AoE gives, go with it. No 100% right answer!
I was having issues with cloud size cause of conc. Conc does add a grip of damage but to get around the decrease of air I am using a quiver with +aoe size and I have a Jewell that has aoe size increase. There are ways around it for sure.
I wonder what kind of jewel that gives aoe for caustic arrow? As far as I know the Martial Artistry only gives area of effect while you are unarmed.
Last edited by WhiteShark2431991#4267 on Dec 14, 2015, 7:54:26 PM
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WhiteShark2431991 wrote:
Hey Grocery have you thought about Spell Totel + Wither + Faster Casting + Increase Duration for better single target?
Also if I don't have Lightning coil + taste of hate, do you think Daresso's + Iron Reflex/Grace + Granite flask would be just as effective against physical damage?
Wither seems to be a waste of time unless it is a super high mp mob. Prob not worth it.
Yea, you should be okay with that setup. CA means you can keep moving so play well and it won't matter :)
For my current builds, thoughts and videos.
youtube.com/andypistone
www.twitch.tv/GrocerySC
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Posted byGrocery#5050on Dec 14, 2015, 9:23:14 PM
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playing this build in talismans, no problem so far( 59, deathless cruel a4, 2.7k hp, 2.2k poison cloud damage)
Only problem so far is int(had to take +30 int node to use coh vuln setup)
Any tips on crafting +3 bow?Is it necessary to have lvl 8 catarina to craft one?
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Posted byLostSinner666#2701on Dec 14, 2015, 9:32:27 PM
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LostSinner666 wrote:
playing this build in talismans, no problem so far( 59, deathless cruel a4, 2.7k hp, 2.2k poison cloud damage)
Only problem so far is int(had to take +30 int node to use coh vuln setup)
Any tips on crafting +3 bow?Is it necessary to have lvl 8 catarina to craft one?
Pretty much otherwise it will be super RNG and a waste of resources. +2 until then is fine tbh.
For my current builds, thoughts and videos.
youtube.com/andypistone
www.twitch.tv/GrocerySC
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Posted byGrocery#5050on Dec 15, 2015, 2:14:30 AM
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Video guide being rendered now. Will upload before work and should go live within 8-10 hours!
For my current builds, thoughts and videos.
youtube.com/andypistone
www.twitch.tv/GrocerySC
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Posted byGrocery#5050on Dec 15, 2015, 3:36:28 AM
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Getting +2 on the bow +%damage over time is important, but is dps of the bow a buff to cloud damage or not?
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Posted byasdfgke#0226on Dec 15, 2015, 5:24:27 AM
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asdfgke wrote:
Getting +2 on the bow +%damage over time is important, but is dps of the bow a buff to cloud damage or not?
No, cloud damage is based off dot damage,chaos damage and projectile damage. Bow dps affects the arrow hit, which we don't care about. My bow is less than 100 dps and I'm over 10k dps.
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Posted byderff87#5755on Dec 15, 2015, 6:12:03 AM
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