[2.1] Life based EB CoE Wander | 70k GMP+Chain Kinetic Blast 4.5k life with Coil

Are the Shadow Tree and the Scion Tree right?, im looking some errors there...

Hi everyone, sorry for the late replies, had a bit of a busy christmas.

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SuperReCuenta wrote:

Are the Shadow Tree and the Scion Tree right?, im looking some errors there...

Could you be more specific, they look fine when I click on them, what are you seeing that's wrong?

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Kike_Rulez wrote:

I'm having a bad time sustaining pCharges with HoI + CoH + Assassin's Mark.

What issues are you running into? It could be that you don't have enough crit, or you're not doing enough damage to shatter enemies, or your clear speed's too low for whatever your Power Charge duration is, or maybe another curse is overriding your Assassin's Mark. I'd need more info before I could tell you what's going wrong.

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Mandibles wrote:

Hey dude, I was wondering what your opinion on this wand is. Should i remove the crafted flat phys and add attack speed if i can? Which do you think is better? Cheers.

It's fine the way it is, and I'm counting 5 mods on it already, so the prefix you used to craft flat phys is the only slot it has available. Meaning no room for attack speed anyways.

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Corolol1 wrote:

how are u getting power charges am i the only one who dont understand how u build up the power charges?

Herald of Ice+Curse on Hit+Assassin's Mark. When I shatter an enemy, the HoI explosion curses nearby enemies, who then get killed and give me Power Charges.

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bendoverxnao wrote:

how much of an impact does alpha's howl have on dps compared to crown of eyes?

It's an acceptable substitute, but I do lose a fair amount of DPS when switching to it. I go from something like 70k dps down to 55-60k.

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theoddphantom wrote:

Can I get a breakdown of the ~10ex cost?

It's an old number based on Standard prices, I could probably stand to update it, but the breakdown is:

~1ex CoE
~1ex good Shield
~2ex 5L that doesn't suck
~2.5ex levelled Enlighten
~1ex everything else needed to cap resists, and a cheap wand that's more or less 'good enough'
~2.5ex for Jewels, which are quite important, and should not be skimped on.

The assumption is that you level gems yourself. And some items like CoE are much cheaper now than before, so it could probably be done for less.

I am Thinking about make this build on Low-life.how u think it will be good?or its Rip?

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NoX1ous wrote:

I am Thinking about make this build on Low-life.how u think it will be good?or its Rip?

Low-life is very strong, and assuming you have Skyforth, then it's a lot easier to pull off than it used to be. It's very expensive though, but probably the better way to do it. Check out Skyforth's or Lawyne's guide if that's what you're interested, they scale damage in a very similar way, but are low life.

A low-life wander is definitely an extremely fun build to play if you can afford it. It's probably what I'll be doing after Talisman's over.

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Shotgun_Surgeon wrote:

Low-life is very strong, and assuming you have Skyforth, then it's a lot easier to pull off than it used to be. It's very expensive though, but probably the better way to do it. Check out Skyforth's or Lawyne's guide if that's what you're interested, they scale damage in a very similar way, but are low life.

A low-life wander is definitely an extremely fun build to play if you can afford it. It's probably what I'll be doing after Talisman's over.

Those builds is very expensive,full og mirrored gear,i am just thinking to use 6l shav+ crown without mirrored gear,but i think i wont have at least damage like in yours guide.Dont know

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NoX1ous wrote:

Those builds is very expensive,full og mirrored gear,i am just thinking to use 6l shav+ crown without mirrored gear,but i think i wont have at least damage like in yours guide.Dont know

The only way to do them properly is to make an expensive build unfortunately. I'd say with Skyforth's boots, the barrier to entry is a lot lower. But I do think those boots are required to do a "budget" low-life wander. If you can even call it a budget build after using expensive boots like those.

CI might be another option worth exploring, but in either case, I won't have the gear to properly test it out until towards the end of Talisman, so I wouldn't be able to offer the best advice either way.

Just want to say the build is going excellent so far. I just had a couple of concerns and questions.

1) I'm sustaining power charges with herald of lightning and just running herald of ice on the side until I can level two enlightens. The damage right now with double herald/wrath seems to be better than wrath/hatred so why did you go with wrath hatred combo?

2) Could you check my gear and see what I need to upgrade next. I'm currently around 11k buffed right now.

Thank you.

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jebose wrote:

1) I'm sustaining power charges with herald of lightning and just running herald of ice on the side until I can level two enlightens. The damage right now with double herald/wrath seems to be better than wrath/hatred so why did you go with wrath hatred combo?

I don't, I use Wrath+Anger+HoI, and specifically recommend you don't use Hatred unless you have a mirrored Wand, and even then it's questionable.

As for generating Power Charges from Herald of Thunder; Herald of Ice should generate charges better, since it can generate charges when you kill packs off-screen, but Herald of Thunder can only generate charges from nearby targets.

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jebose wrote:

2) Could you check my gear and see what I need to upgrade next. I'm currently around 11k buffed right now.

Gear seems fine, gear with more life is definitely a worthwhile thing to aim for, and a Taste of Hate is always a nice thing to have. But as far as DPS is concerned levelling your gems is going to have the biggest impact compared to anything else right now.

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Shotgun_Surgeon wrote:

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jebose wrote:

1) I'm sustaining power charges with herald of lightning and just running herald of ice on the side until I can level two enlightens. The damage right now with double herald/wrath seems to be better than wrath/hatred so why did you go with wrath hatred combo?

I don't, I use Wrath+Anger+HoI, and specifically recommend you don't use Hatred unless you have a mirrored Wand, and even then it's questionable.

As for generating Power Charges from Herald of Thunder; Herald of Ice should generate charges better, since it can generate charges when you kill packs off-screen, but Herald of Thunder can only generate charges from nearby targets.

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jebose wrote:

2) Could you check my gear and see what I need to upgrade next. I'm currently around 11k buffed right now.

Gear seems fine, gear with more life is definitely a worthwhile thing to aim for, and a Taste of Hate is always a nice thing to have. But as far as DPS is concerned levelling your gems is going to have the biggest impact compared to anything else right now.

I think I wrote my question wrong. I'm currently using herald of ice and thunder with Wrath because of the lack of the enlightens. I meant to say anger instead of hatred, and my testing way wrong anyways. So Taste of Hate and more life on gear and the DPS will come from the tree and leveling up gems.
Speaking of the tree which route should I take? I've honestly just been going about it all freely.

I'm trying out this build now as my first ever attempt at a non-CoC wander. The clear speed is incredible!

I've also modified the build slightly to fit my budget without losing too much DPS. Currently I'm running a dual attack leech version of the build that allows me to sustain without Eldritch Battery OR a Life Leech gem in my KB. Using this I have 1.6% of attack damage leeched as life for both my KB and single target, vs the 2% of the Life Leech gem. This has been plenty of leech so far and I can even spec into 0.4% more if needed. Mapping has been very easy and fast, although there have been a couple deaths because my health isn't quite where it needs to be. I'm running just Wrath and HoI. Here's the current tree as it would be if I was higher level:
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwYARXyXl_v1tDjlGYw2VUuJ02HicFImlSoLFr9d8g5IEZbjhH_GBx4byA3RoqOVLs_dNj1jQ8Hz8NXxim1snapVhZUggh5JUed07LBsjKXLaxctHxSw6NaMC2KsvOrFKEyzmmEi6gW1uXzAVPZbIG7QHwQHwnPDOo2_CPRqQ1m8UDDv64Pbc3CbtSo4UUfbXlXGn4hfsITFPs831OdUMHw6WPbnykq95u0_JP2Nfc5wb57_3iP2CaCDCZykTZKjimznhxPuDj9zdwf8xQ2NW6-Hdk4q458j00p9byeaauCfBWY=

I just finished my first set of "mapping" level gear including getting a lightning coil up and running, and the next step is to get 4 good jewels with +3 ES gain on hit and drop the Mana Leech nodes for Eldritch Battery and probably some more life. That will allow me to add HoT to my setup.

After that, it is a matter of getting the gear/gem requirements in place to switch to anger instead of HoT. I'm not sure where I will be pulling points out of to get the aura nodes there... I may just go for a 6L first instead, but that's another price range up that I can't nearly afford yet.

Here's my current gear, which I'm mostly quite happy with apart from the shitty ring I needed in order to cap my resists. The boots and facebreaker were self-found, and the rest of the gear cost a total of 104c (plus minimal master-craft costs), 74c of which was for the 5L lightning coil... now that's a budget!



I am level 80 now and only at about 3.3k health... not sure how to fix that =/. Luckily nearly everything dies instantly so nothing really has the chance to kill me anyways.