Developer Insight: The Divination Card Creation Process

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CharanJaydemyr wrote:

If anyone asks me if this is worth it, I say if they don't have their own unique to promote/work with or some personal message (as with The Lover -- so sad!)

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GeorgAnatoly wrote:

Was making them account bound or something like that so they would have realistic drops rates for the individual rather than being, as some have put it, more trade fodder ever on the table?

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CharanJaydemyr wrote:

Feel free to explain why 'Rain of Chaos' gives only one chaos orb then. Fairly sure you guys know what 'rain' means.

Did Jozen specifically request just one orb for 8 cards, and insist it be called 'rain'? Really curious about that one.

Oh, and The Alpha's Howl card art is *terrible*. Yes, in most cases you struck a fine balance between stylistic and truly artistic, but in that case, it looks like a fucking doodle. Were I the supporter behind that I'd be like 'uhm, 1.1k for that? Seriously?'

Anyway, good job sucking a lot of money out of folks for *far* less dev work than required for the cheaper (and now obviously defunct, at least openly) custom unique design pack. Better than the farce that was Grandmasters, at least.

If anyone asks me if this is worth it, I say if they don't have their own unique to promote/work with or some personal message (as with The Lover -- so sad!), probably not. 1.1k USD to fill out a submission form with like, four options and *maybe* get a few messages back and forth with a faceless dev (probably Nick) regarding 'compromise'?

Nope. Not that GGG I supported so heavily and happily.

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Serleth wrote:

Considering I typically get 4-6 of those cards per Village Ruin run, certainly feels like it's raining Divination Cards at least, if not chaos orbs.

Fits with the drop rate discussion as well; as we well know, you can easily go 10 maps without dropping a single chaos orb. Two to three VR map runs = 1 chaos = fitting enough to me.

Fits well with the flavour text also: Where the shards fell, all was destroyed. Seems like a village got ruined by a rain (or perhaps reign) of chaos.

As for the name, and amount required per stack:

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Once we've mutually decided a name, flavour text and reward item, we take over the process. We'll create art for your card, balance its rarity, determine how many you'll need to complete a stack, and assign it to drop in specific locations.

-- From "How Divination Card Submissions Will Work"

So, stands to reason that Jozen decided the 1 chaos orb, GGG decided the cards per stack, and the name was mutually agreed on.

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Loreweaver wrote:

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GeorgAnatoly wrote:

Was making them account bound or something like that so they would have realistic drops rates for the individual rather than being, as some have put it, more trade fodder ever on the table?

Soulbound non-quest-specific items are a terrible, horrible, no-good very bad design choice in every game I've ever played.

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Caladaris wrote:

I think the idea of the cards is nice. But in reality the implementation right now is somewhat lackluster for the casual player (= me at the moment). Every once a while a card drops, but always either with super trash reward (like 40 scrolls of wisdom - wow, if you farm that card, you easily get 500 just from farming) or it's like super rare and you have 1/12. Leading to the cards being put into stash and then just being forgotten.

So this is once again a hard core-player-only feature. But this contradicts with many cards just being trash and not worth farming. Good players will farm for a very limited amount of cards, while the weak/medium cards - clearly designed for casual players - are not used at all.

All in all not a very satisfactory feature in my opinion. One option to fix it would be to massively increase card drops for weak/medium cards, and to make it much more transparent what cards can drop in which areas.