[2.0] Rathik's Shotgunless Barrage COC. New build. Much stronger now. Boss killer.

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ugrolol wrote:
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So basically you saying for single target just below 3.0 APS is the highest DPS output?

yes it is propably

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Ethereal knives with 6 charges and RF
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Freezing pulse with 6 charges and RF
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Flame surge with 6 charges and RF
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main thing about dps thing you should count actual clear speed that depends on skill mechanic itself


I really don't care about how fast I clear maps, my main goal now is how to optimize single target DPS so the build can be able to kill Uber Atziri.

Thats all that matters really.
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Railune wrote:
Also, according to my model:
Breakpoints for barrage:
1) For GMP (8 hits) - 1.5 first, 3 second, 4.5 third etc
2) For LMP (6 hits) - 2.0 first, 4 second etc
3) For pure barrage - 3.0 first, 6.0 second etc

MAXIMUM number of srs per shot:
1) For GMP (8 hits) - 8 below first breakpoint, 4 below second, 3 below third etc
2) For LMP (6 hits) - 6 below first, 3 below second, 2 below third
3) For pure (4 hits) - 4 below first, 2 second etc


Да, попоробуй набрать чуть меньше 1.5 и чуть больше - должно быть 8 при меньше и 4 при больше.



just got 1.2 wand and tested it out
1.44 aps
so with gmp i got 6or7 at max main thing that you SHOULD hit another target(i mean there only 4 procs from one target) so i just didnt go for 8 srs but i think its possible
and obviously 4 without gmp


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I really don't care about how fast I clear maps, my main goal now is how to optimize single target DPS so the build can be able to kill Uber Atziri.

Thats all that matters really.

go for firestorm glacial flame surge +conc effect then its propably the top if you dont count discharge itself
if you do then
discharge glacial fs conc
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Last edited by ugrolol#7289 on Aug 5, 2015, 3:27:10 PM
>so with gmp i got 6or7 at max main thing that you SHOULD hit another target(i mean there only 4 procs from one target) so i just didnt go for 8 srs but i think its possible
and obviously 4 without gmp

No idea about only 4 procs from one target. IF it is so, then it really changes things.
Maybe you were just unlocky with procs?


About break points. If you can get to 4.5 - then it is better than 3.0!
But 3.7 is PROBABLY (depends on crit and to hit) worse than 3.0

From the other side - when you attack bosses do not attack with 1 barrage, since when you have a lot of attack speed and you attack with 1 barrage means you attack for a very short time.
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>so with gmp i got 6or7 at max main thing that you SHOULD hit another target(i mean there only 4 procs from one target) so i just didnt go for 8 srs but i think its possible
and obviously 4 without gmp

No idea about only 4 procs from one target. IF it is so, then it really changes things.
Maybe you were just unlocky with procs?


i was trying this for about 10 mins and at most i got was 7
maybethats just cos coc have 70% chance at lvl 20 at max so thats really hard to get that much
but about thing with one target come out to my mind just cos when i start hitting big packs on purpose i start getting srs with MUCH more chance so i dont even know if i got more then 4 vs solo target once

barrage attack is pretty inaccurate itself
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Last edited by ugrolol#7289 on Aug 5, 2015, 4:33:36 PM
>maybethats just cos coc have 70% chance at lvl 20 at max s
yeah, and max hit chance is 0.95
so the real crit chance is 0.95*0.95*0.7=0.63175

And the chance to roll 8 crits in a row is (0.63175)^8=0.025
1 of 40 tries on average, if you are lucky enough :)


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[2.0]Non legacy Mjölner. Uber down. -thread/1474288
[2.0]Shatter Chuck Lite COC -thread/1324981
[2.0]SRS Magic Find Culler. Uber capable. /w budged build -thread/1406603
[2.0]NEWBIE MF/DPS Summoner -thread/479976 | Power leveling guide -thread/522556
Hi there , atm i struggle :D I'm dying with prolly the same stuff , so i want to know , how the hell are you surviving ? I only got a 5 link voll's but hey , i can't tank lvl 73 map boss , and you're tanking aztiri like shit ^^ , I'm posting my stuff below :D

I need help :3 xD
Last edited by Tamesstylest#1957 on Aug 5, 2015, 6:48:40 PM
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Tamesstylest wrote:
Hi there , atm i struggle :D I'm dying with prolly the same stuff , so i want to know , how the hell are you surviving ? I only got a 5 link voll's but hey , i can't tank lvl 73 map boss , and you're tanking aztiri like shit ^^ , I'm posting my stuff below :D
Spoiler

I need help :3 xD


Link me ur skill tree and flasks
IGN Riokar | My guides
[2.0]Non legacy Mjölner. Uber down. -thread/1474288
[2.0]Shatter Chuck Lite COC -thread/1324981
[2.0]SRS Magic Find Culler. Uber capable. /w budged build -thread/1406603
[2.0]NEWBIE MF/DPS Summoner -thread/479976 | Power leveling guide -thread/522556
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Rathik2 wrote:
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Tamesstylest wrote:
Hi there , atm i struggle :D I'm dying with prolly the same stuff , so i want to know , how the hell are you surviving ? I only got a 5 link voll's but hey , i can't tank lvl 73 map boss , and you're tanking aztiri like shit ^^ , I'm posting my stuff below :D
Spoiler

I need help :3 xD


Link me ur skill tree and flasks


https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Tamesstylest/characters
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Rathik2 wrote:
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Tamesstylest wrote:
Hi there , atm i struggle :D I'm dying with prolly the same stuff , so i want to know , how the hell are you surviving ? I only got a 5 link voll's but hey , i can't tank lvl 73 map boss , and you're tanking aztiri like shit ^^ , I'm posting my stuff below :D
Spoiler

I need help :3 xD


Link me ur skill tree and flasks


Well obviously your problem is character level :).

You shouldn't be doing lvl 73 maps at your level 74. You are wasting them.

Check out the EXP calculator to see which area is suited for your level.

http://poetools.com/experience-penalty/

If you can get 90-100% EXP from free areas you should be doing those. Save your maps.

Second, you are missing life leech gem so you can't really face tank all the bosses.

There are a few things you can do though to combat this. Keep in mind that nothing is as effect as a life leech gem.

Fix your flasks.
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Get eternal flasks, they heal life over 4 seconds were a divines heals over 7 seconds.
Don't worry about the amount. With Alchemist and Profane Chemistry nodes 1 usage of the flask will heal you for more than 4000 life.

Sanctified flask can also work, they heal over 3 seconds but they only have 30 charges, they also heal for a bit less.

20% Eternal flask 2496 life over 4 seconds, 45 charges
20% Sanctified flask 1752 life over 3 seconds , 30 charges

You can also use a Seething Divine Life Flask for instant recovery but it will not recharge with your crits.

Atziri's Promise Amethyst flask
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DPS and life leech on demand. Unfortunately it doesn't recharge with crits so you can't rely on it 100%. Use wisely.

Cast on damage taken
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CWDT + Warlord's Mark
Keep in mind that map bosses have 60% reduced effect of curses on them, and Act Bosses 70%.

CWDT + Discharge + Life Leech
Decent way to leech back some life, especially when using Voll's armor.
You need to find the sweet spot of CWDT gem level.
About 25%-30% damage taken of your life. It really depends on you on how much to level it.

Leech from Doryani's belt, wand and corrupted amulet.
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The best way to get direct life leech on your barrage attack with 100% up time when not using life leech gem.

Cold Damage Leeched as Life is the best option.

With all 3 items you will have 0.6% leech. Remember that you are only leeching from your cold damage.

Vaal molten shell + life leech + increase duration
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Very situational. First it needs to be charged. Best use in anticipation of incoming damage.



IGN Riokar | My guides
[2.0]Non legacy Mjölner. Uber down. -thread/1474288
[2.0]Shatter Chuck Lite COC -thread/1324981
[2.0]SRS Magic Find Culler. Uber capable. /w budged build -thread/1406603
[2.0]NEWBIE MF/DPS Summoner -thread/479976 | Power leveling guide -thread/522556
Last edited by Rathik2#1558 on Aug 6, 2015, 4:24:09 AM

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