[2.0] Rathik's Shotgunless Barrage COC. New build. Much stronger now. Boss killer.

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Railune wrote:

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ugrolol wrote:

To test whether you have a bad breakpoint link: Barrage - CoC - GMP - Lvl 1 SRS. If you can't spawn more then 4 SRS minions in one barrage then you need to reduce or increase your attack speed to get to the proper breakpoint.

did you try this out?

According to my calculations, the maximum number of srs in attack speed between 1.5-3.0 is 4.
Cannot spawn more. The tests confirm it. Although I do not have necessary items to test speeds below 1.5 (the maximum number is obviously 8) and above 3.0 - the maximum number should be 3.
Playing on Warbands, cannot afford to throw away 100500 regrets. But if you have necessary items feel free to test it.

I tested at about 1.7 speed and at 2.6 speed - both variants give 4 srs max.

Btw the suggested test is only good for finding break points. The DPS at 3.0001 is much higher than on 1.49999 if we fire multiple barrages.

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Railune wrote:

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ugrolol wrote:

To test whether you have a bad breakpoint link: Barrage - CoC - GMP - Lvl 1 SRS. If you can't spawn more then 4 SRS minions in one barrage then you need to reduce or increase your attack speed to get to the proper breakpoint.

did you try this out?

According to my calculations, the maximum number of srs in attack speed between 1.5-3.0 is 4.
Cannot spawn more. The tests confirm it. Although I do not have necessary items to test speeds below 1.5 (the maximum number is obviously 8) and above 3.0 - the maximum number should be 3.
Playing on Warbands, cannot afford to throw away 100500 regrets. But if you have necessary items feel free to test it.

I tested at about 1.7 speed and at 2.6 speed - both variants give 4 srs max.

Btw the suggested test is only good for finding break points. The DPS at 3.0001 is much higher than on 1.49999 if we fire multiple barrages.

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Pancakezx wrote:

Playing this in warbands, super fun but quite a bit squish.

Here is what I have so far;

I struggle alot with keeping p/charges up with HoT/CoH/Ass mark, is it better to just run 2 spells in tabula and Ass mark/pcoc to keep up the charges? Apart from that, awesome build!

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Rathik2 wrote:

I would like to talk more about this. I added you in game.

Also just to note something.

Every time I get an acceleration shrine that gives a huge APS, my COC procs are insane.
I have notice this for a long time now, even posted about.

So it does seem possible that the "2.3 APS" is not valid or at least not entirely accurate.

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Railune wrote:

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Rathik2 wrote:

I would like to talk more about this. I added you in game.

Also just to note something.

Every time I get an acceleration shrine that gives a huge APS, my COC procs are insane.
I have notice this for a long time now, even posted about.

So it does seem possible that the "2.3 APS" is not valid or at least not entirely accurate.

Unfortunately it is not possible to talk ingame. I have played in eu servers like 2 years ago. Currently playing on ru-garena server. The translation is horrible sometimes, but at least real money traders are not so annoying - hate them :)

About acc shrine: I do not know its attack speed increase, but for example (according to my model) at 0.95 hit chance and 0.9 crit chance you get: 6.8 average crits per second at 1.5 aps, 8.7 at 3, 9.5 at 4.5 etc. with maximum of 12 at infinite aps. Also with aps increase the crits become more "stable" (crit dispersion decreases)

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So what are these breakpoints?

Base Barrage w/no LMP or GMP
<3.0 APS

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Rathik2 wrote:

Post your skill tree.

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Railune wrote:

Also, according to my model:
Breakpoints for barrage:
1) For GMP (8 hits) - 1.5 first, 3 second, 4.5 third etc
2) For LMP (6 hits) - 2.0 first, 4 second etc
3) For pure barrage - 3.0 first, 6.0 second etc

MAXIMUM number of srs per shot:
1) For GMP (8 hits) - 8 below first breakpoint, 4 below second, 3 below third etc
2) For LMP (6 hits) - 6 below first, 3 below second, 2 below third
3) For pure (4 hits) - 4 below first, 2 second etc


Да, попоробуй набрать чуть меньше 1.5 и чуть больше - должно быть 8 при меньше и 4 при больше.

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Pancakezx wrote:

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Rathik2 wrote:

Post your skill tree.

http://tinyurl.com/ovpkejs

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So basically you saying for single target just below 3.0 APS is the highest DPS output?

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Added screenshot section

Ethereal knives with 6 charges and RF
http://imgur.com/6bZiGCk

Freezing pulse with 6 charges and RF
http://imgur.com/KSXC84R

Flame surge with 6 charges and RF
http://imgur.com/QNG24Jr