[2.0 WIP] The Railgun: Chin Sol Point Blank Pyre Ice Shot [NSFHC] (WIP)

Oh, I thought their effects were cumulative.

I have to say I've had much trouble to level between 55 and 61, thanks to subpar gear (very poor resistances plus a semi-good bow). 61, I found a much better bow, which increased my clear speed.

And 62, at last, chin sol. Oh my... This is so good... And I'm following almost to the letter my own 2.0 suboptimized tree (I just took a 12% to all elemental resists to survive a bit more before 62, which I will probably regret soon). Now that I have good gear (level 65, I bought a new belt, gloves, boots and one ring), I am the god of war !

Very cool build. Never killed Piety so fast when I was only her level. Not one shotting yet, but still. Thanks.

Even damned warbands and their gazillions of life die swiftly now.

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Pingouinmalin wrote:

I have to say I've had much trouble to level between 55 and 61, thanks to subpar gear (very poor resistances plus a semi-good bow). 61, I found a much better bow, which increased my clear speed.

And 62, at last, chin sol. Oh my... This is so good... And I'm following almost to the letter my own 2.0 suboptimized tree (I just took a 12% to all elemental resists to survive a bit more before 62, which I will probably regret soon). Now that I have good gear (level 65, I bought a new belt, gloves, boots and one ring), I am the god of war !

Very cool build. Never killed Piety so fast when I was only her level. Not one shotting yet, but still. Thanks.

Even damned warbands and their gazillions of life die swiftly now.

Thanks for posting updates and keeping the thread alive! Can you show me your current links?

If you dont mind, why switch to ice shot only as late at level 62?

Hey guys, hey Pingouinmalin!

Thanks for experimenting and posting updates. I managed to jump in to playing some Railgun action myself yesterday and the tree I ended up with is almost identical to yours with two notable differences:

1. I picked Spirit Void over Mind Drinker since you will always have full mana with the +2 mana gained on hit per enemy whereas 0.4% leech via physical is very hard since only the initial target gets dealt physical damage.

2. I also picked up Vaal Pact and I'm running Blood Rage for Frenzy Charges and leech. Together with Atziri's Promise (another 2% chaos damage leeched as life and 25% of elemental damage added as chaos damage) can insta-heal me from 100 HP back to full health with a single shot!

Here's some footage of me getting up to Merc Malachai (which was way harder than a 75 map!) and you'll notice that HP is the biggest problem. 3.5k is way too litte. I also will try to link up Blood Rage with Cast when Damage Taken and Less Duration which should solve the degen issue when I'm not in combat.

http://www.twitch.tv/r4wb1rd/v/8695475

And my current Skill Tree at level 88.

Hi AratemusoAkiyo, I did not switch to ice shot at level 62, just to chin Sol.

Now level 74, I use :








Was not very eager to use split arrow at first (I did not like it when I started the game) but as a curse enabler, it works very well.

Ice shot with faster attacks instead of physical projectile damage because the DPS seem better with same level gem. Don't see the point of PPD in fact.

Puncture as third attack because against some bosses to whom I can't come close this skill allows me to deal much over time damage, even with the point blank malus when you are far. The 4-L can probably be improved, I have not thought it that much.

Mirror arrow because it is cool.

A flame golem because more damage. Herald of ash for the same reason. Purities to help on resists. Never more than two auras at once because of the cost (GGG, I hate you for the reduced mana nerf !).

The build is cool, though a tad bit squishy to my taste. I am not a great player and I love having life buffet that allow mistakes.


Rawbird, cool to see what you changed (though it is gonna cost me respecs if I have to follow your build to the letter...). Why no golem on your vid ? I hesistated between Ice and flame but I crit most of the time anyway and flame is just stronger in that case. And it is, I believe, much stronger than the peacock that follows you. Though less cute, let's admit it.

Pingouinmalin, I was using Ice Golem (more accuracy and crit) all the time but it dies so fast :D - I will see if I can link it to Cast when Damage Taken, together with Blood Rage and less duration.

And since I can't using Herald of Thunder anymore I swapped from Split Arrow + Pierce + Curse on Hit + Assassin's Mark to Lightning Arrow + GMP + CuH + Curse. Works wonders for shocking stuff!!

what sort of dps are you getting, i'm using it, and it feels kind of lack luster.im right on 62, and i managed to 6link my chinsol in 40fuse. and i only have like 10k dps, and the aoe feels really small

The DPS shown are far below the reality. If you have followed the guide, you should be happy with the real DPS and kill lots of monsters very easily (at least I was happy but I'm a budget player : if you're comparing to high budget builds, I suppose it is less impressive).

Rawbird, your lightning arrow + GMP to curse is tempting, as shock seems to be a free 2nd curse.

I looked in your tree and I have two questions :

Coldhearted calculations ? Why do you take that one ? I had already skipped it when I followed your 1.3 guide and I still do not understand... Must be missing something.

And no Jewel ? I have not looked yet into everything there is but some seem pretty powerful. Tow passives to get huge bonuses do not seem overkill.

@Pingouinmalin:

I don't have any jewels on Standard and since I don't play Standard I won't get some. I didn't see many jewels in general since I don't really have time to play right now. Maybe I can revisit the jewel discussion a bit later into the leagues when I've seen some options.

Why Coldhearted Calculations? Because it connects to Written in Blood which is easier to reach than Revenge of the Hunted (one less skill point but same % inc life total) and I needed the Intelligence. If you can grab Revenge of the Hunted without having Int problems it's ofc the better choice.

@maoster:

At level 88 I have an 18.000 tooltip without any charges and using Hyrri's Bite.

The raw average damage however is 1200 phys and 3500 fire. With 350% crit multi that goes to 4k phys and 12k fire. If I'm in point blank range this will be times 1.5 (Point Blank Key Stone) and times 2.0 (Chin Sol) leaving us with 12.5k phys and 37k fire in the face of the monster initially hit.

In the cone phys and fire are combined and the phys portion gets the Weapon Elemental Damage gem double dipping (the 12.5k become 20k thanks to 60% more ele damage from the gem) combining into 57k pure fire damage in the cone.

Carcass amplifies that by another 12% (area damage) to 63k and if the targets in the cone are shocked that's another times 1.5 leaving us with 95k fire hit damage in the cone. If we ignite, the burn is now 100% damage over 4 seconds instead of 80% because of Pyres increased burning damage mod so the burn is another 190k damage over the duration of the burn.

If Atziri's Promise is active the cone hit gets amplified to 119k damage.

If you add the cone hit plus the burn you end up with a whopping 300.000 damage over 4 seconds which roughly translates back to 75k DPS.

Of course you won't be critting and shocking all the time so ultimately we'll have to round that down to about 50k DPS which is quite average - but then again the build is dead cheap :D

I've done a few things to make it smoother, and it now feels quite nice. I'm using the ranger gem, its like 10proj 15pierce, so a total of 55pierce on tree and i got lucky and got a +1 arrows hyrris bite. And now that ive started getting bow dmg nodes, feels pretty good. I get the feeling iron reflexs would be better than going evasion though. Getting hit by the odd mob is pretty scary.

My favorite part of the build atm os the vaal burning arrow trap. 1hkoed piety with 3. 1hkoed voll aswell instantly. Without burn.

The biggest problem i had was no 20 20 aoe gem. And at the time was using a tabula for the hilarious vaal burning arrow (phys proj, slower proj, wed, trap, conc) literally so much dmg. Now that i am using carcass its pretty slick, almost about to convert my lvl19 aoe gem on a diff toon into 20q.

How is mana sustained, even with spirit void, i sometimes have trouble