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SoujiroSeta wrote:
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Dynas wrote:
If you would sacrifice a minimum of 100 damage off the top end of a weapon for instant life leech, you need to get your head checked. You, sir, might be retarded.
Funny you say that. In closed beta, i had a dual wield high crit chance/multiplier dual strike shadow. I utilized blood rage. i had 1.5k hp, 2.7k energy shield, 35% evasion, and 29 dual wield block.
With blood rage, my leech per weapon was 20%. With dual strike, that was 40% of physical dmg. i had ghost reaver so i leeched ES instead. This was using 6% claws by the way. I'll tell you this, I was leeching back a minimum of 300 ES per hit, and up to 1000 ES (and more) on crit. I could refill my 2.7k es in 2 hits. I also was attacking at 2.65 attacks per second. I had over 30% crit chance mind you, and I was pure physical dmg. I was using a the unique claw essentia sanguis, and had a stronger claw on other hand.
Now, imagine if i was life based, and was leeching back 300 minimum per hit instantly and up to 1000 or more on crit instantly.
If you don't like the weapon, fine, but don't say it sucks if you don't know how to use it or how good it can be. This claw is insane for high leech physical dmg claw users.
Yup, let's all do about 1/2 the damage of a good weapon to leech life instantly. I don't need to leech instantly if my enemies are dead.
This weapon would be great if it was a lower level item. At 62, it is just plain bad.
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Posted byDynas#6892on Mar 20, 2013, 1:40:50 AM
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Dynas wrote:
Yup, let's all do about 1/2 the damage of a good weapon to leech life instantly. I don't need to leech instantly if my enemies are dead.
This weapon would be great if it was a lower level item. At 62, it is just plain bad.
And you would die on reflect. I could oneshot myself on reflect with dual strike. I didn't use whirling blades because of this, when i crit with it...gg.
With 40% instant leech, this would have been impossible.
Also, not everyone is going for "lol OMG how much dmg can i deal". I'll tell you guys this, A HIGH DMG BUILD IS EASY TO DO. They are no brainers. coming up with something that isn't your typical "lol zomgs high dps aoe" and actually works is another story. If you are looking at these claws from a "i can get higher", then why even waste time looking at uniques cause save for a few (kaoms, shavronne's, etc) you can always get better rares.
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Posted bySoujiroSeta#2390on Mar 20, 2013, 1:47:05 AM
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Catacrom wrote:
No ele damage from that claw is going to hurt a lot of builds.
Couple that with the fact that there are no aoe abilities that use both weps for claws in game currently.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
what is lightning strike and cyclone and whirling blades hur.
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Posted byVypur#7479on Mar 20, 2013, 1:48:53 AM
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'Can't dispute how nice they'll be in your alternate weapon set or as an offhand weapon swap as a claw user so you don't need to grab Vaal Pact. Just switch when you see a damage reflection mob and you've saved your build a significant amount of passive skill points.
same name in-game
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Posted byiao#2860on Mar 20, 2013, 1:54:18 AMAlpha Member
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Whelp, we know what devmoon will be wanting to use his chance orbs on now.
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Posted byFILM#0173on Mar 20, 2013, 1:58:58 AM
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Note that with a life leech gem, you can leech back any elemental damage that you do with the claw instantly as well.
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Posted byPastromy#5792on Mar 20, 2013, 2:00:29 AM
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SoujiroSeta wrote:
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Dynas wrote:
Yup, let's all do about 1/2 the damage of a good weapon to leech life instantly. I don't need to leech instantly if my enemies are dead.
This weapon would be great if it was a lower level item. At 62, it is just plain bad.
And you would die on reflect. I could oneshot myself on reflect with dual strike. I didn't use whirling blades because of this, when i crit with it...gg.
With 40% instant leech, this would have been impossible.
Also, not everyone is going for "lol OMG how much dmg can i deal". I'll tell you guys this, A HIGH DMG BUILD IS EASY TO DO. They are no brainers. coming up with something that isn't your typical "lol zomgs high dps aoe" and actually works is another story. If you are looking at these claws from a "i can get higher", then why even waste time looking at uniques cause save for a few (kaoms, shavronne's, etc) you can always get better rares.
If you actually one-shot yourself, instant life leech wouldn't fix that. You'd still take your entire hp globe in damage and be dead before life leech could apply. This isn't mtg.
Secondly - No matter what your build is, you want to maximize the damage it deals. No one wants to create a character that's painful to clear with. Furthermore, no one would want to group with a character that can't deal damage. Why would I want you in my run if you will give my enemies 50% more health and you don't do damage?
This is an interesting item, but at level 62 it's horrible unless the damage scales better.
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Posted byDynas#6892on Mar 20, 2013, 2:02:11 AM
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Vypur wrote:
what is lightning strike and cyclone and whirling blades hur.
uwotm8?
As I said, there are no aoe abilities that use both claws.
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Posted byCatacrom#3132on Mar 20, 2013, 2:18:03 AM
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Dynas wrote:
If you actually one-shot yourself, instant life leech wouldn't fix that. You'd still take your entire hp globe in damage and be dead before life leech could apply. This isn't mtg.
Secondly - No matter what your build is, you want to maximize the damage it deals. No one wants to create a character that's painful to clear with. Furthermore, no one would want to group with a character that can't deal damage. Why would I want you in my run if you will give my enemies 50% more health and you don't do damage?
This is an interesting item, but at level 62 it's horrible unless the damage scales better.
Dual claw + Kaom + new helm + Carnage heart + decent hp+ and hp% and the possiblity of dying is 0 on a cyclone tank.
Reach 50% lifesteal with 2 perfect claw + perfect necklace + claw passive + warlord mark and ww with your 8k+ hp 9k+ armor and 1k life on hit literaly,apply endurance charge and you could even tank vaal hit and refill in a mere second if not more.
This effect also negate the biggest problem of vaal pact,no life potion + no regen,the damage is low because the tradeoff is extremely big.
This claw is a solo build/tank maker that for sure.
IGN : DCDTDito
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Posted byDCDTDito#3214on Mar 20, 2013, 2:20:28 AM
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DCDTDito wrote:
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Dynas wrote:
If you actually one-shot yourself, instant life leech wouldn't fix that. You'd still take your entire hp globe in damage and be dead before life leech could apply. This isn't mtg.
Secondly - No matter what your build is, you want to maximize the damage it deals. No one wants to create a character that's painful to clear with. Furthermore, no one would want to group with a character that can't deal damage. Why would I want you in my run if you will give my enemies 50% more health and you don't do damage?
This is an interesting item, but at level 62 it's horrible unless the damage scales better.
Dual claw + Kaom + new helm + Carnage heart + decent hp+ and hp% and the possiblity of dying is 0 on a cyclone tank.
Reach 50% lifesteal with 2 perfect claw + perfect necklace + claw passive + warlord mark and ww with your 8k+ hp 9k+ armor and 1k life on hit literaly,apply endurance charge and you could even tank vaal hit and refill in a mere second if not more.
This effect also negate the biggest problem of vaal pact,no life potion + no regen,the damage is low because the tradeoff is extremely big.
This claw is a solo build/tank maker that for sure.
the claw is amazing already, but we don't know the roll ranges of the IPD and flat physical.
it can be considerable better possibly.
ign = ultrahiangle
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Posted byultrahiangle#4938on Mar 20, 2013, 2:28:33 AM
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