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Ewww I'm not liking Brightbeak. At the least it could have been given all resistances I instead of just 2.
I hope it gets buffed.

there's at least a good 5-7 uniques that I think are real trash.

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Xapti wrote:

Ewww I'm not liking Brightbeak. At the least it could have been given all resistances I instead of just 2.
I hope it gets buffed.

there's at least a good 5-7 uniques that I think are real trash.

Not all of the uniques can be 'awesome'. That is not their purpose, as I'm sure you're well aware. Some will be rarer than others; some will enable builds, some just do funny things. The rate at which GGG needs to fill that unique roster is going to result in some relatively 'mediocre' uniques.

Diamond uniques still should be the 'standout' uniques overall, as well. They're where the really crazy, outlandish ideas come into play.

Finally, rares are still supposed to be the most powerful items. That was GGG's stance then, it's their stance now. Unique items have no onus to be 'powerful'; they simply do things rares can't.

I challenge you to name any ARPG where all the uniques were as awesome as each other, or even an ARPG that didn't have some 'trash' uniques.

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Charan wrote:

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Xapti wrote:

Ewww I'm not liking Brightbeak. At the least it could have been given all resistances I instead of just 2.
I hope it gets buffed.

there's at least a good 5-7 uniques that I think are real trash.

Not all of the uniques can be 'awesome'. That is not their purpose, as I'm sure you're well aware. Some will be rarer than others; some will enable builds, some just do funny things. The rate at which GGG needs to fill that unique roster is going to result in some relatively 'mediocre' uniques.

Diamond uniques still should be the 'standout' uniques overall, as well. They're where the really crazy, outlandish ideas come into play.

Finally, rares are still supposed to be the most powerful items. That was GGG's stance then, it's their stance now. Unique items have no onus to be 'powerful'; they simply do things rares can't.

I challenge you to name any ARPG where all the uniques were as awesome as each other, or even an ARPG that didn't have some 'trash' uniques.

I agree 100%. The Diamond Uniques should be the best uniques in the game. That's why I was saying earlier that those should be a little OP.

It would be cool if the POE team made it clear which were Diamond unique's though... maybe add Diamond in the game somewhere or just give it a label of "Diamond"

Thing is, rares are NOT the strongest items.
The best example of this is Lioneye's Glare.

It is the best bow in the game, period. It saves 15 points because of its free restech.

I like when unique's have BIS items. I think the point Charan was making is that not ALL of the uniques will be awesome...

also quick question...

with that 2h weapon that has the 15 lvl AOE effect for gems socketed into it... if i were to add an AOE gem into the weapon as well, would i have double the AOE (from gem and affix on weap?)

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Xendran wrote:

Thing is, rares are NOT the strongest items.
The best example of this is Lioneye's Glare.

It is the best bow in the game, period. It saves 15 points because of its free restech.

Correction, Lioneye's Glare is CURRENTLY the best bow in the game. ARGUABLY.

That new Chin Sol can probably outdo it for some builds, and when Act 3 releases and the leveling curve shifts, who knows whether a level 66 bow is the best available?

So I'm a bit disappointed with Facebreaker. Like I already said when I first saw them I didn't realize the physical damage part, but also I didn't know they wouldn't work with spells either (like bear trap or detonate dead or ethereal knifes), granted they'd probably be really OP if they did work with that.

I suppose I'll try making a build around them, but I quite doubt it would beat a build that just masses lots of elemental damage and uses elemental hit. Not only would a such a build likely tie the unarmed DPS, but it will also be far better since it could be used with a weapon to do it at range, and/or to do more damage and/or attack faster.

So overall it's kinda a flop right now — maybe just something you can use to level characters from 1-40 or something if you have some really good phys damage rings and gear to pair them with.

I don't see why they had to nerf unarmed so that it's no longer 1 handed, 2 handed, or dual-wielding — doesn't even work with shield charge anymore because of it.

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0nin wrote:

when Act 3 releases and the leveling curve shifts, who knows whether a level 66 bow is the best available?

well past level 60 items don't really increase in DPS though, so unless they change that (by maybe adding items that go from level 70 to 80 being the ones who's DPS don't change) then anything aside from a new unique wouldn't really be any better.

I've also changed changed my mind on the hammer now, since I didn't think about all the possibilities of it's use. While it's still kinda crappy for regular use past a narrow level range, it certainly has a significant use aside from that.

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Charan wrote:

Not all of the uniques can be 'awesome'. That is not their purpose, as I'm sure you're well aware. Some will be rarer than others; some will enable builds, some just do funny things. The rate at which GGG needs to fill that unique roster is going to result in some relatively 'mediocre' uniques.

Diamond uniques still should be the 'standout' uniques overall, as well. They're where the really crazy, outlandish ideas come into play.

Finally, rares are still supposed to be the most powerful items. That was GGG's stance then, it's their stance now. Unique items have no onus to be 'powerful'; they simply do things rares can't.

I'm well are of this stuff.
I'm not saying all uniques need to be awesome or more powerful than the best rares (far from it — best rares can be ridiculously good), I just think they should all have more than slight changes from what a rare item could get. Mediocre is fine as long as mediocre still means significantly different from a rare.

Items like Aurseize, Sadima's touch, Heatshiver, The Peregrine, and The Ignomon
just seem to bland or useless — too similar to a rare.

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I challenge you to name any ARPG where all the uniques were as awesome as each other, or even an ARPG that didn't have some 'trash' uniques.

Irrelevant

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Xapti wrote:

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Charan wrote:

I challenge you to name any ARPG where all the uniques were as awesome as each other, or even an ARPG that didn't have some 'trash' uniques.

Irrelevant

Not at all. I'm suggesting with this challenge that the issue of unique disparity in terms of 'awesomness' is impossible to overcome.