DonkeyFarts Incinerator Witch/Templar/Marauder/Scion Uber Atziri viable, updated as of 01/11/2015

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Maybe run a reduced duration lightning warp set up to be safe.

well first of all, there simply is no space in gem links for that, you either use unset ring 20/20 or you don't use it, or you loose something a lot more important, and second of all, it has nothing to do with safety really, it does nothing on the first two fights, and on atziri it can back fire if you tp and lightning strike appears there as you tp. So, I generaly don't use it for atziri whether normal or uber, it's helpful in maps though yes, and again i just have an unset ring for that.

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Пока,что клоак 5л в 6 дыр ставлю эле викнесс))Ну а на ст перейду,воткну 6л и уже придется забыть про эле викнесс,да и нигде не могу купить ваал каресс перчи,ни на торменте ни на ст,либо не отвечают,либо оффлайн.

Да они стоили 10х где то когда я покупал, но они продавались не у многих, и те что продавали уже догнали что к чему, и повысили цены до екса - 5 ексов. так что вот.

Also lets keep this thread english only, because many people probably would love to understand those answers but can't.

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Ashkatar wrote:

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Maybe run a reduced duration lightning warp set up to be safe.

well first of all, there simply is no space in gem links for that, you either use unset ring 20/20 or you don't use it, or you loose something a lot more important, and second of all, it has nothing to do with safety really, it does nothing on the first two fights, and on atziri it can back fire if you tp and lightning strike appears there as you tp. So, I generaly don't use it for atziri whether normal or uber, it's helpful in maps though yes, and again i just have an unset ring for that.

It was aimed at the guy wanting to run without VM. He would then get the space for the setup. It would be great in Atziri, since the warping is instant. If you warp to a location and a lightning strike appears on the ground you have more than enough time to warp again. The indicators stay there for a few seconds before they go off. It would also help in the trash, if he desyncs or gets stuck in trash then the ability to get away would be a huge benefit where with VM you can just switch one on if you get stuck and let rip.

Obviously with the VM setup then it's not feasible.

i wouldn't say it's good on atziri trash, either you'r doing normal or uber you should never be standing in melee range at all, yes you can survive the damage there, but you can also get one shot with a crit. So i don't really use it. But yeah sure use it if you like it, i personally don't use it on atziri farm.

Changed my gear a bit,fixed problem with dex,got 900 free mana now,situation changed very good.Feeling myself in battles much better now.I think your idea with scold's+vaal molten build can absolutely pretend for a 1# incinerate build here on torment!Great idea and crazy powerful.

as I said, while there are other incinerate builds out there, in my opinion this one is by far the most efficient when it comes to dps/tank, and it can be absolutely fine without the league specific unique, although loosing some dps it's still perfectly good to farm wealth from 0 until you can afford one, and solo the entire content in this game. I simply don't understand people using added lightning gem or added chaos, or not using cod+rf, i mean i get lightning they want to shock, by herald of lightning achieves the same thing and you get fire pen% which is massive portion of dmg when it comes to atziri.

Also did some maths, 6.1k hp is achievable at level 99-100, if you get that i don't think they's anything in this game that'll pose a threat. Aside of some rediculous 160%+ 77-78 which no one can do anyway.

Hey Ashkatar, i was thinking of a way to recreate the ''schold's effect'' to proc Vaal molten shell, so my idea is (maybe not so good so far, but maybe worth trying) using Shackles of the Wretched with punisment lvl one in it, and a double trike with multistrike and Faster attack to proc the vaal molten shell as fast as we can with the catalyst, what''s ur tought on this ?? and can u try it if u have the budget for ut, cause i dont :P

Could also use molten strike with GMP, AA negating most of the damage, and all the Projectiles would deal physical damage to us cause of punisment and proc vaal molten shell each time ... ill really have to try this even if it cost me a lot ...

Shackles of the Wretched

Hmm, that's interesting it could definitely work, but you would also definitely need to take curse duration nodes in the tree to make the effect last, and also i'd say cylcone would be better since it would have higher hits a second. But duno it don't think it would work well, this build of mine works well because incinerate alone is already a good chunk of damage by itself, and vms is just a burst pill for bosses. Your variation would probably end up lacking all sorts of things idk. I can already see all sorts of issues, because if for example you go cod/mom/rf you will lack phys dmg very much, and it will be hard to build up charges, and when you did built them up, you need to manage not just the vms cd but also the punishment curse on yourself. And don't forget the enduring cry will be self cast in the new patch so that'll just be over complicating the game for yourself honestly.

was more thnking of a swap for uber, while running incinarate for mapping/content ...

neh, that would be even worse. To make things efficient in the build you need synergy between your skills, you can't just run trash mods with spell and than switch to melee weapon hits for uber atziri, you want all these things to add up to each other. just don't bother honestly, it would be cheaper to save up for scold's than to play around with possible and impossible deviations of what you want to do.