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So i decided to try out this build. finally almost level 50 and im starting to have second thoughts on my build. Early levels the build is fun and all specially with 6 sock searing staff. I breeze through the game early levels.
Now upon reaching cruel act 2 and 3 im starting to notice its weakness. gear scales really bad on this build. i just bought an amulet that adds an extra 20% fire damage and it only made like 15-20 dps increase on my fireball ( LMP + FORK ). I'm still playing in cruel and i could only imagine how worse this will be when i start merciless and end game maps. specially without having cast speed and life steal for reflect? I dont even have life regen at my level. so im really concern about Survivability and Efficiency at end game.
Any thoughts? Can anyone convice me this build is viable end game? i mean its viable sure but not really efficient compare to others.
Here's my advice:
1) Sell your equips
2) Buy Spell Totem, Ice Spear, GMP
3) Delete your character
4) Play a cookie-cutter dual totem ice spear build
If you're reading this, I'm probably on another year-long ban.
Thanks GGG.
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Posted bycasval776on Feb 21, 2013, 3:14:55 AMOn Probation
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Just a quick question about Discipline, why is it beneficial to run Discipline with EB, didnt that get changed so you don't actually get more energy shield than mana reserved? Anyhow sorry if I missed it in the thread somewhere but do not know the math behind this decision and was curious, thanks!
Lvl 15 discipline is 163 ES for 190 mana reserved.
So, if you have 85 int and 0 ES nodes, you will get 1,17*163= 191 mana.
Also, even if you got only 190 mana, you have more mana max, and so, more mana regen because of it.
But discipline grant way more the mana reserved (because you have way way more than 85 int)
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Posted byKeyenon Feb 21, 2013, 3:51:20 AM
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So i decided to try out this build. finally almost level 50 and im starting to have second thoughts on my build. Early levels the build is fun and all specially with 6 sock searing staff. I breeze through the game early levels.
Now upon reaching cruel act 2 and 3 im starting to notice its weakness. gear scales really bad on this build. i just bought an amulet that adds an extra 20% fire damage and it only made like 15-20 dps increase on my fireball ( LMP + FORK ). I'm still playing in cruel and i could only imagine how worse this will be when i start merciless and end game maps. specially without having cast speed and life steal for reflect? I dont even have life regen at my level. so im really concern about Survivability and Efficiency at end game.
Any thoughts? Can anyone convice me this build is viable end game? i mean its viable sure but not really efficient compare to others.
It does seem like people in this thread struggle with the english language. As stated a few times in this thread its a template... Meaning it is a basic build that you should alter and modify to your play style.
I am not struggling at all in Act 3 cruel and it is because I have taken this build at the staff only. My gear is tailored to how I want it. I haven't taken eldrich battery and i have geared chaos resistances and passivley taken +30str and +30agi to be able to use my gems and I have upped my cast speed. I do not use fork or lmp as yet as i do not see the point in needing 3 fireballs doing 30% less damage. Its much easier just to run around a group to make them run on top of each other and throw 2 or 3 fireballs to kill them all.
Build your build using this template as it is meant to be used.... a template...
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Posted byBrad1987on Feb 21, 2013, 5:40:32 AM
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So i decided to try out this build. finally almost level 50 and im starting to have second thoughts on my build. Early levels the build is fun and all specially with 6 sock searing staff. I breeze through the game early levels.
Now upon reaching cruel act 2 and 3 im starting to notice its weakness. gear scales really bad on this build. i just bought an amulet that adds an extra 20% fire damage and it only made like 15-20 dps increase on my fireball ( LMP + FORK ). I'm still playing in cruel and i could only imagine how worse this will be when i start merciless and end game maps. specially without having cast speed and life steal for reflect? I dont even have life regen at my level. so im really concern about Survivability and Efficiency at end game.
Any thoughts? Can anyone convice me this build is viable end game? i mean its viable sure but not really efficient compare to others.
It does seem like people in this thread struggle with the english language. As stated a few times in this thread its a template... Meaning it is a basic build that you should alter and modify to your play style.
I am not struggling at all in Act 3 cruel and it is because I have taken this build at the staff only. My gear is tailored to how I want it. I haven't taken eldrich battery and i have geared chaos resistances and passivley taken +30str and +30agi to be able to use my gems and I have upped my cast speed. I do not use fork or lmp as yet as i do not see the point in needing 3 fireballs doing 30% less damage. Its much easier just to run around a group to make them run on top of each other and throw 2 or 3 fireballs to kill them all.
Build your build using this template as it is meant to be used.... a template...
you sir are trying hard to be a smart ass. 1st off english isnt my 1st language and i could really care less about my grammar etc..
You keep emphasizing its a template and I am using it as a template i have no idea what your trying to prove here.
What im worried is its viability end game. the damage scaling is poor and survivability isnt that all great. sustainability is also an issue. without having any kind of LoH and LL I'll be spending my time kiting + potting which is inefficient. if i am to modify this build to fix all that issue id rather find a different build to use as a template since i dont really see any benefits following this build.
I'm not trying hate on the build, i like the idea but i just dont see it working. then again its only my opinion and I'm only level 50. Hence why im posting here to see if anyone actually had success on this build. You being a smartass and a fanboy posting non sense doesnt really help much.
ign Look_At_Em_Go
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Posted bysacri23on Feb 21, 2013, 5:57:10 AM
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So i decided to try out this build. finally almost level 50 and im starting to have second thoughts on my build. Early levels the build is fun and all specially with 6 sock searing staff. I breeze through the game early levels.
Now upon reaching cruel act 2 and 3 im starting to notice its weakness. gear scales really bad on this build. i just bought an amulet that adds an extra 20% fire damage and it only made like 15-20 dps increase on my fireball ( LMP + FORK ). I'm still playing in cruel and i could only imagine how worse this will be when i start merciless and end game maps. specially without having cast speed and life steal for reflect? I dont even have life regen at my level. so im really concern about Survivability and Efficiency at end game.
Any thoughts? Can anyone convice me this build is viable end game? i mean its viable sure but not really efficient compare to others.
It does seem like people in this thread struggle with the english language. As stated a few times in this thread its a template... Meaning it is a basic build that you should alter and modify to your play style.
I am not struggling at all in Act 3 cruel and it is because I have taken this build at the staff only. My gear is tailored to how I want it. I haven't taken eldrich battery and i have geared chaos resistances and passivley taken +30str and +30agi to be able to use my gems and I have upped my cast speed. I do not use fork or lmp as yet as i do not see the point in needing 3 fireballs doing 30% less damage. Its much easier just to run around a group to make them run on top of each other and throw 2 or 3 fireballs to kill them all.
Build your build using this template as it is meant to be used.... a template...
you sir are trying hard to be a smart ass. 1st off english isnt my 1st language and i could really care less about my grammar etc..
You keep emphasizing its a template and I am using it as a template i have no idea what your trying to prove here.
What im worried is its viability end game. the damage scaling is poor and survivability isnt that all great. sustainability is also an issue. without having any kind of LoH and LL I'll be spending my time kiting + potting which is inefficient. if i am to modify this build to fix all that issue id rather find a different build to use as a template since i dont really see any benefits following this build.
I'm not trying hate on the build, i like the idea but i just dont see it working. then again its only my opinion and I'm only level 50. Hence why im posting here to see if anyone actually had success on this build. You being a smartass and a fanboy posting non sense doesnt really help much.
-You can add Leech if you choose to at any point in time,
-Adding % Upgrades early game isn't going to give you any results.
-if you're using Lmp/fork and looking at the damage. It's already being reduced by the supports gems for it to go up alot
-A few pages back I've stated how it works end game
-As for kiting, you can pretty much kill almost anything in 1-2 hits leveling up with Gmp Or Lmp at melee range up until higher end maps/certain unique resist bosses
-Cap your fire resist and run purity, You should have absolutely no trouble with reflect.
The only reason people are getting frustrated with your question is because it's been asked multiple times on multiple occasions, no ones trying to be a smart ass ;)
- I quit the game, I have no Fan Boy's xD
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Posted byPohxon Feb 21, 2013, 10:43:35 AM
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Im level 18 atm with the searing touch and quality fireball and fire storm. and im being slain all the time this is completely shitty as fuck. someone give me a solution sorry for being mean and all but seriously its horrible at this point why am i dying so fast ?
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Posted bymelonzyon Feb 21, 2013, 12:28:32 PM
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Im level 18 atm with the searing touch and quality fireball and fire storm. and im being slain all the time this is completely shitty as fuck. someone give me a solution sorry for being mean and all but seriously its horrible at this point why am i dying so fast ?
A WILD SNORLAX HAS APPEARED!
AND HE SAYS....... that you are fucking stupid at the game if you have a searing touch and qfire ball and you are dying in normal.... stop for a second and READ THE MOTHER fucking post and look at what you have not done..... pretty sure you are not wearing armor gear. or you are sitting and tanking dmg like a baddie.
Stop tanking dmg you should not be dying at all with this the only reason you are dying is that you are not playing it the right way. you should be killing everything before it even gets close to you.
Good day.
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Posted byXiloAngelon Feb 21, 2013, 1:03:19 PM
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Did you tech straight to Eldritch Battery+Chaos Inoculation or something?
In seriousness, so long as you have Searing Touch, I'm honestly not understanding how it's possible to have problems with a fire-based build especially at low levels. Even up until level 40 common sense can dictate a solid tech tree and keep you alive. I'm at level 20 right now 1/4 done with act 2 and waiting to party with some friends tonight. I have died twice. Both while typing in general chat and not caring.
learn 2 not suck
edit: Oh, and up until I just glanced at my character sheet just now, I've apparently been sporting some fancy 6 armor normal gloves. Yeeeeah.
lel♯ jenk♯ ∞ Last edited by iamajellydonut on Feb 21, 2013, 4:31:56 PM
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Posted byiamajellydonuton Feb 21, 2013, 4:30:39 PM
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@Krit regarding flicker strike mobs.
Whenever I see flicker mobs in a map I always stay close to a wall, if you put your back to a wall they can't tele behind and dodge your FB's and mess you up.
Make sure to have one of these handy, surgeon and % don't matter much.
I prefer increased duration and faster casting for molten shell. You really use it defensively with this build, so when i need it up...i need it up ASAP.
Lasty
I see you have a 5link, you should try out Life Leech...i literally facetank 85% of maps. Heavy hitting phys mobs I have to kite juuust a bit.
dude, thanks for the huge tips, after reading your post, i pretty much copied your skill links, turned out that Life leech working great with GMP+LL+Piercing :DDD
heres another question, is life leech only taken affect from the initial damge caused by fireball, or is it also gonna include the burning damage over time whichs triggered by the initial fireball attack ?
win or lose, up the blues.IGN=Uncommon_Valor/Dianatheprince
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Posted bykriton Feb 21, 2013, 6:09:46 PM
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^^^ If I had to guess I would say yes, however I cannot confirm either way. It's hard to include chance to ignite when using Life Leech. I ditched the burning dmg passives when I ditched chance to ignite.
IGN=FatherOfDragons/TheUnburnt
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Posted byGameOfThroneson Feb 21, 2013, 7:12:38 PM
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