[2.2 WIP] Grocery's 400k+ DPS Frenzy Tornado Shot Physical Bow Build!

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subtleorwhat wrote:
but if you factor in the phys damage, and then multiply it by nearly 4 because of his crit, and another 3.4 for his attacks per second, you're looking at that much dps...


no u dont...
calc it yourself, post the number u get.

it's less then 30k (calced with 100%cc)
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Last edited by Doe#2466 on Jan 14, 2015, 10:41:50 AM
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Doeboy1337 wrote:
can u add screenshots w/o party buffs?


I don't have party buffs mate. The SS shows what my dps is and it lists what buffs I have. I only solo.

I will update them today because I have better gear now than before.
For my current builds, thoughts and videos.
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www.twitch.tv/GrocerySC
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Doeboy1337 wrote:
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Doeboy1337 wrote:
can u add screenshots w/o party buffs?

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subtleorwhat wrote:
I'll do it at lunch or when I get home, thanks :)

was more about the OP. since his screenshot is a fake.
his dmg screenshot if fully party buffed

Combined: 9545 - 22059
Physical: 1150 - 2669

makes 8395 - 19390 from non physical sources, so his "physical" build does only 8,28% physical damage on that screen?

Hatred + HoA + HoI does:
Fire: 2761 - 6406
Cold: 2007 - 4362
Light: 3627 - 8622


I have SS's with and without vaal haste/atziris promise and SS with just charges up.

I have a decent amount of weapon ele damage on my belt, rings, and quiver. Added fire, weapon ele damage are both gems I use with Frenzy.

It is also a physical build because it uses a phys bow and gets the phys nodes. Hatred converts a %, so it is better to have high phys damage. Options for phys to lightning require a lot of phys damage and again converts damage to an ele source.
For my current builds, thoughts and videos.
youtube.com/andypistone
www.twitch.tv/GrocerySC
Last edited by Grocery#5050 on Jan 14, 2015, 11:07:42 AM
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Doeboy1337 wrote:
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subtleorwhat wrote:
oh lol, i see what you were going for but you forgot to take into account the fact that he has 87% crit chance, 400%+ crit damag,e and 3.4 attacks per second, all of that stuff is included in the dps tooltip


doesnt minder the fact that:
Hatred + HoA + HoI does:
Fire: 2761 - 6406
Cold: 2007 - 4362
Light: 3627 - 8622

is not possible selfbuffed? :D

even 95%cc capped and 500+multi wont go that high, not even close (with the linked gear he took the screeny with)


Say what you want mate. I'll post higher screenshots later and then you can theorize and do the math incorrectly again.

What party buffs do you suspect I have up?
The SS clearly states what state my character is in.

Please read :
Frenzy with Charges up (no flask/vaal haste)
Frenzy with Vaal Haste, Flasks and chargres
Tornado Shot with charges up
Tornado Shot with Vaal Haste, Flasks and charges
For my current builds, thoughts and videos.
youtube.com/andypistone
www.twitch.tv/GrocerySC
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Doeboy1337 wrote:
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subtleorwhat wrote:
but if you factor in the phys damage, and then multiply it by nearly 4 because of his crit, and another 3.4 for his attacks per second, you're looking at that much dps...


no u dont...
calc it yourself, post the number u get.

it's less then 30k (calced with 100%cc)


... I don't even know what to say. How could any build with the gear linked in my post only do 30k.

Like I said, after work I'll post screenshots but this last message just proves to me that you are doing the math wrong.

I'll even put on my old gear to show you the old SS's, minus having 1 less power charge now as I don't need it due to being capped with my current gear.
For my current builds, thoughts and videos.
youtube.com/andypistone
www.twitch.tv/GrocerySC
Last edited by Grocery#5050 on Jan 14, 2015, 11:15:21 AM
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Doeboy1337 wrote:
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subtleorwhat wrote:
but if you factor in the phys damage, and then multiply it by nearly 4 because of his crit, and another 3.4 for his attacks per second, you're looking at that much dps...


no u dont...
calc it yourself, post the number u get.

it's less then 30k (calced with 100%cc)


"no u dont..."

but you do...

go make a crit build and check your dps, then add a node that just adds crit chance/damage and watch your dps go up.
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Grocery wrote:
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Doeboy1337 wrote:
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subtleorwhat wrote:
but if you factor in the phys damage, and then multiply it by nearly 4 because of his crit, and another 3.4 for his attacks per second, you're looking at that much dps...


no u dont...
calc it yourself, post the number u get.

it's less then 30k (calced with 100%cc)


... I don't even know what to say. How could any build with the gear linked in my post only do 30k.

Like I said, after work I'll post screenshots but this last message just proves to me that you are doing the math wrong.

I'll even put on my old gear to show you the old SS's, minus having 1 less power charge now as I don't need it due to being capped with my current gear.


this is physical dmg source calced from first screenshot (didnt looked at the others tbh)
provide screens, show me how u convert that much ele dmg from your low physical base damage on a HP build. but dont cut the screenshot keep it fullsize

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subtleorwhat wrote:
"no u dont..."

but you do...

go make a crit build and check your dps, then add a node that just adds crit chance/damage and watch your dps go up.


you dont even read what ppl are posting.. pointless to go further, never played a crit build.

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Grocery wrote:

You are not calculating it correctly.

You are not taking into account APS/Crit Chance/Multi.

Hopefully we can get back on topic now :)

oh i did it's 28k from physical which u wanna scale up to 190k
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Last edited by Doe#2466 on Jan 14, 2015, 3:11:40 PM
I do not know how this post got side tracked yet:

I assure you 290ish DPS (standard)with 3 frenzy charges, 3 power charges (I like the new buff to the increrased critical strike gem if you are only running 3 power charges anyway vs the pcoc gem yet thats just me I just like crits to hit on my first hit rather then wait for a buff xD), vaal haste buff and if he is calculating atziri's Promise in can reach the 290ish or more DPS depending on gears after all the self solo buffs with that godly glyph mark mirrored bow. I do not have a glyph yet I can buff frenzy into the 230 - 240k range I think and I do not even use atzirii's promise since I am to lazy to equip it just for a boss fight in general. My guess is much of his gears that can do have 30+ elemental damage on them like rings, belt, etc. which do add up a lot when converted with the hatrd, etc.

Its very possible on the numbers that were given.

Anyway sorry to get involved yet in standard its very possible on the tooltip to get those damage numbers I would think with a glyph mark. On the downside the OP is sorta stuck with frenzy as the single target dps overall due to the mirror colors and is limited in the options to play with things like puncture, etc. for mainly atzari runs yet with that mirrored bow I am sure it does not matter if you puncture or use frenzy xD.

:P
Last edited by NewbieDOTcom#6239 on Jan 14, 2015, 1:33:18 PM
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NewbieDOTcom wrote:
I do not know how this post got side tracked yet:

I assure you 290ish DPS (standard)with 3 frenzy charges, 3 power charges (I like the new buff to the increrased critical strike gem if you are only running 3 power charges anyway vs the pcoc gem yet thats just me I just like crits to hit on my first hit rather then wait for a buff xD), vaal haste buff and if he is calculating atziri's Promise in can reach the 290ish or more DPS depending on gears after all the self solo buffs with that godly glyph mark mirrored bow. I do not have a glyph yet I can buff frenzy into the 230 - 240k range I think and I do not even use atzirii's promise since I am to lazy to equip it just for a boss fight in general. My guess is much of his gears that can do have 30+ elemental damage on them like rings, belt, etc. which do add up a lot when converted with the hatrd, etc.

Its very possible on the numbers that were given.

Anyway sorry to get involved yet in standard its very possible on the tooltip to get those damage numbers I would think with a glyph mark. On the downside the OP is sorta stuck with frenzy as the single target dps overall due to the mirror colors and is limited in the options to play with things like puncture, etc. for mainly atzari runs yet with that mirrored bow I am sure it does not matter if you puncture or use frenzy xD.

:P


I use Frenzy because of the colors yes, from a previous build I was using. I could sell the bow and trade it for another Glyph, but it really is overkill at this point. Colors are not idea for puncture as you stated. To be honest thought, TS and the shotgun mechanic make it better single target than most other skills. I use puncture only when I need it like Atziri. Otherwise, TS is the way to go for single and multi-target.

I clearly stated what buffs I had, so I am not trying to be deceptive with how I calculated it. I also put my numbers with just charges up. No Vaal Haste/Atziri's Promise.

You are correct in the fact that I have decent rings listed in that picture. 30-35% weap ele damage and crit rolls on them as well. It is quite feasible as you have stated.

For my current builds, thoughts and videos.
youtube.com/andypistone
www.twitch.tv/GrocerySC
Last edited by Grocery#5050 on Jan 14, 2015, 2:56:01 PM
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Doeboy1337 wrote:


this is physical dmg source calced from first screenshot (didnt looked at the others tbh)
provide screens, show me how u convert that much ele dmg from your low physical base damage on a HP build. but dont cut the screenshot keep it fullsize


You are not calculating it correctly.

You are not taking into account APS/Crit Chance/Multi.

Hopefully we can get back on topic now :)
For my current builds, thoughts and videos.
youtube.com/andypistone
www.twitch.tv/GrocerySC
Last edited by Grocery#5050 on Jan 14, 2015, 2:56:08 PM

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