The Spectrel Gods ( A Summoners Guide ) [Updated 4/22][Now with video!]

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mattc3303 wrote:

they aren't viable spectres for mapping, I remember using them extensively for dock farming thou

Yes they are really good at docks: ) Sometimes I use 1 burned miscreations and 2 flame sentinals in 66-67 maps to have some fun, but they just die too fast: (
They also do not work with iir/iiq gems, even someday they can, u cant link like that since they are too fragile and needs more offensive/defensive gems to support.
After trying all kinds of spectres and links, flame sentinal seems the op choice for spectre now. They clear mobs very fast even linked with iir and iiq which add no dps: all they need are minion dmg and chain(Chain is much better than any GMP/LMP). Also they survive well: P
Tentacle miscreation + GMP is a lot of fun but their efficiency is no match for flame sentinals if linked with iir/iiq gems.
My observation is based on a 5L chest.

Hey, following this thread for a very long time.Hands down best Summoner build out there, very good job thanks for your effort and sharing your knowledge with us.Want to ask couple of things :

1- Is zombie+added fire+proliferation+chance to ignite better than Zombie+Minion health+Minion Damage+Multi strike (DPS Wise)
2- How much DPS that burning damage can do ? I watched Kripps video, it is really much but since he has no minion passive and uniques I wonder how fast your builds burning damage can be ? And it increases with Anger aura right ?
3- I am farming currencies for rerolling a witch based on your build, items etc.But I am going to use Necromantic Aegis with %40 all res kite shield.So my spectres can be very tanky.In last 2 posts you said, burned miscreations is not good for maps.Can they become good/tanky/survivable with summon elemental resistance + necromantic aegis with %40 all res + purity + vitality ? I watched all of your videos, and dock farming with them was amazing.Everythings melt down in only a second.And I am thinking to use Increased Burning Damage gem, Minion Health, Increased AoE, Spectre with 3 curse = Flammability, Elemental Weakness, Vulnerability (For %40 more burning damage) while stacking shock and triggering Elemental Equilibrium with Arc.So even the most tankiest monsters should be melt in a couple of seconds right ?
4- Burned Miscreations deal fire damage per seconds based on their life or on enemies life ?
5- Last question or should I just use other spectres like Flame Sentinel, Undying Incinerator with Necromantic Aegis + Rathpith for more health, spell damage ?
Sorry for asking too many things, but I wonder too much.Too bad, there is not much information about stats of spectres, minions.Again,thank you for your time and effort. :)

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It hss better aoe damage but less single target dps. Especially when they explode.

Burning damage is a lot, my zombies has roughly 15,000 w/o minion life.
15,000 * .33 = 4950 explosion , burn is 4/3 of damage over 4 s [1633.5 * 4s ...= 6534 AOE burn]

factor in elemental weakness, flammability, shock stacking(120% dmg), temporal chain(lasts 8s)

yes the burning on will increase on anger on hit

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You can try it, i prefer projectile based spectres.

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I read somewhere that its enemies max life, idk much about them

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Yes that would increase their spell dmg and tankiness. I just prefer having the shield stats to myself b/c i don't want to die

weird thing going on with the forums post, can't post the rest of my msg o.o

Thank you so much for helping, I guess I am going to try it, if it is not good I would go with Flame Sentinal or Undying Incinerators (That trap is amazing.)

How much is a Midnight Bargain / BOnes of Ullr worth on default? I want to make a summoner but I dont really have many currencys currently. (1 exalt, 1 gcp, 10 fuses are my best ones)

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mattc3303 wrote:

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It hss better aoe damage but less single target dps. Especially when they explode.

Burning damage is a lot, my zombies has roughly 15,000 w/o minion life.
15,000 * .33 = 4950 explosion , burn is 4/3 of damage over 4 s [1633.5 * 4s ...= 6534 AOE burn]

factor in elemental weakness, flammability, shock stacking(120% dmg), temporal chain(lasts 8s)

It probably does more damage than that, actually. MI explosion damage is also increased by minion damage now (though the extent of extra damage from that source is not known).

Edit: Still though, when I ran into a pack of incinerators, all the AoE in the world wouldn't help cause they bombed my army from way out of range. There were like 5 clusters of them in that damn map too!

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InsaneX3 wrote:

How much is a Midnight Bargain / BOnes of Ullr worth on default? I want to make a summoner but I dont really have many currencys currently. (1 exalt, 1 gcp, 10 fuses are my best ones)

Ullr seem to fluxuate from seller to seller. I bought mine for 100 wisdom scrolls, lol :p Usually they sell for 1-4 GCP in-game from what I have seen. Midnight bargain, on the other hand, seems to be holding steady at 3 pure exalts.

What's your opinion of Using Spork instead of Arc on "Hallway" maps?

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Justifiedsoul wrote:

What's your opinion of Using Spork instead of Arc on "Hallway" maps?

Spark is unreliable. You have to wait for the spark to hit the enemies. Arc comes with a 10% chance to shock build in and u can direct it to where you want. With elemental proliferation shocking is easy.

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mattc3303 wrote:

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Justifiedsoul wrote:

What's your opinion of Using Spork instead of Arc on "Hallway" maps?

Spark is unreliable. You have to wait for the spark to hit the enemies. Arc comes with a 10% chance to shock build in and u can direct it to where you want. With elemental proliferation shocking is easy.

Ah yes. I totally derped on the 10% on arc. Skimmed the Arc part earlier today in work. Other then Elemental Prolifration, What other support would you suggest as I have an extra blue socket to link with it. Was thinking maybe Added Lightning damage for extended time or Increased critical strikes, but we have such low base crit it's probably not worth it.