2.3 Fakener (budget fake Mjölner) build - Trickster Version

Just got this from a friendly guildmate today, guess I'm gonna multimod the hell out of it.

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alvuimil wrote:

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FocusedFelix wrote:

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rockmassif wrote:

Is this doable as Low Life?

To elaborate on the gear/tree post:
LL would require Skyforths and the Occultist passive giving you a 35% chance rather than a 100% chance for PCoC for Shav's vs Voll's. I suppose if your crit is high enough and your APS on cyclone is insane enough, you could proc enough charges to make it push past the Voll's version... but it would be a bit of a struggle. Also, Vile Bastion is a nice bonus to the Forbidden Power Occultist nodes, but Shade Form from Trickster is a much more appealing passive where ES and general tankiness is concerned.

IMO, If you want to run LL, making an actual Mjolner build would be both more efficient and cheaper.

This is coming from an armchair perspective, I was debating the two myself and this was my thought process: I picked CI.

Wrong about ascendancy class, Low life = Scion (berserker / assasin). You skip LL on gear, so u can add PCharge on Crit (20/20 - 54% + 25% skyforth = 79%)
This is how im lvling my char WITHOUTH voll devotion..still getting higher dps than CI (obviously more expensive)
I will try to update it ASAP, but i dont have enlightens lv 3 yet (this will save like 4 points)

I should slap myself for forgetting about the PCoC gem, and the fact that Ascendant would negate the need for inc crit and LL gems.

And yeah, expeeeensive: considering 6L's, it would be about 5x more than CI (being conservative with 50ex for 'forths). Let me know what you end up hitting on avg DPS, and if you've rocked a LL Mjolner, let me know how it compares. I'm debating respec'ing my Trickster into a Sab trapper and leveling a Scion... 3m into this message and I still can't believe I forgot about PCoC...

One thing you're forgetting about, and the biggest reason voll's is used over any other chest, is that PCOC will only give 1 charge per "attack" meaning if you hit 10 things it'll still only give 1 charge, meanwhile voll's gives you one on ANY crit, which is kind of the enabling factor of the build. so arguing over which would work best with LL is moot given without voll's armor you're basically trying to play it on 1 charge casts.

wiki bits that explain what this means:

voll's protector -


PCOC -

Has anyone here got to level 80+ as Shadow Trickster, Witch Occultist, and Scion Assassin/Beserker and have opinions on which is best and why? I've seen posts in other threads from people giving their opinions, but haven't seen anyone state they have actually tried all 3.

I'm asking because I currently play this as a Scion, but thinking of switching to Trickster or Occultist so I can try a different build on my scion. If it matters, I don't currently have a Voll's devotion so I use blasphemy+warlords. Will be same on whichever character I switch to unless I get lucky on my next 342 agate ammy chancing trip.

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stoudtlr wrote:

Has anyone here got to level 80+ as Shadow Trickster, Witch Occultist, and Scion Assassin/Beserker and have opinions on which is best and why? I've seen posts in other threads from people giving their opinions, but haven't seen anyone state they have actually tried all 3.

I'm asking because I currently play this as a Scion, but thinking of switching to Trickster or Occultist so I can try a different build on my scion. If it matters, I don't currently have a Voll's devotion so I use blasphemy+warlords. Will be same on whichever character I switch to unless I get lucky on my next 342 agate ammy chancing trip.

cliff notes: it's all personal preference but having tested it as both trickster and sin/zerker i can say a few things, occultist not so much.

trickster is easier gearing, far more selection of jewelry without having to worry about -mana rolls. the es/eva from your merc labs ascendancy give a nice boost to your es pool and while i dont have enough eva to be "lol i never get hit" every little bit helps.

sin/zerker if you can manage your mana well is a lot more convenient imho, and if i wasn't building on a budget would likely be my choice. can drop LL for bv in your 6L which is just a nice QoL change and hits crit cap and thus most reliable dps a lot easier. personally if funds aren't a problem sin/zerk would be better imho, but you will need to make up for a lot of the weaknesses of it with higher value items where as trickster is fairly cheap to gear

Hi, gonna make this build as Trickster CI ofc for more defensive and free cyclone and whirling blades. I have one Shadow, but assassin, lvl 72. Should I reroll this char (it will cost me a lot) or make new? Can I level nice since lvl 38? It is worth to make another char on Perandus (I will not play on standard).

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Nastrun wrote:

Hi, gonna make this build as Trickster CI ofc for more defensive and free cyclone and whirling blades. I have one Shadow, but assassin, lvl 72. Should I reroll this char (it will cost me a lot) or make new? Can I level nice since lvl 38? It is worth to make another char on Perandus (I will not play on standard).

72 isn't regret spam worthy IMO, just level another char. Blade Vortex leveling is fastest, but I just used Freezing Pulse in a Tabula with BV for bosses because I enjoy the skill more.

@38, Fakener can be a little rough because you'll only have 4 (if you rushed the charge in Shadow) power charges. I used an Ungil's Harmony until I picked up the first 5 power charges from the tree, then swapped it out for something with crit. Your Vagan dagger is another big factor: I had to wait on picking up EE until 44 when I could use my multi-modded dagger... and while getting a sub 38 level req dagger is possible, regaling it to craft crit could put it up into the low to mid 40's range, so you're missing out on more crit there. I hate leveling with one skill to swap for another at 60+, so I push to make CoC builds work immediately.

If you don't mind sitting in dried lake until 44, getting a Vagan Boot Blade with added fire and crafting crit is the way to go. I bought mine for 30c (someone flat regal'd fire damage, so I had 4 open affixes for multi-mod) and MM'd it for a solid dagger at 44.



This is Ungil's if you've never used one before:


TLDR: Level a new character, use the currency you saved to get a good Vagan dagger/Call of the Brotherhood, level with an Ungil's Harmony until you're comforatble with your crit.

someone used Call of the Brotherhood ring like mathil ci build did? if yes how is dps difference?

I am following Mathil's trickster guide fairly closely and am sitting at lvl60 and comfortably dealing with most things. I am levelling life based with the intention of swapping out to CI soon. I was just wondering what a good time to spec into CI is? I am beginning to feel the impact of having very little life (just over 2k and a about 700es). Is lvl 60 too early to spec into CI? I have the currrency to buy moderate to decent ES shield/boots/helm but nothing crazy at this stage.

Stupid question but why does mathil use a lvl 3 lifeleech? why not leveling it up?