RaizQT's budget RF incinerator (Atziri killer build) 2.0 UPDATED!

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Chickenlal wrote:
I'm still not sure if we should use LMP or GMP. Imo I think LMP is fine?

Maybe GMP is easier for maps.


But why are we some people using faster projectiles when u have 20q incinerate? I've played with 20q incinerate and I think the range is enough.



I prefer to use GMP, i have a 20q Incinerate and still use faster projectiles i really like the range with this setup.
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EnvyOnTheCost wrote:
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Chickenlal wrote:
I'm still not sure if we should use LMP or GMP. Imo I think LMP is fine?

Maybe GMP is easier for maps.


But why are we some people using faster projectiles when u have 20q incinerate? I've played with 20q incinerate and I think the range is enough.



I prefer to use GMP, i have a 20q Incinerate and still use faster projectiles i really like the range with this setup.



Aren't we supposed to get close and personal with everything for better results (RF)?
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Qte wrote:
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EnvyOnTheCost wrote:
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Chickenlal wrote:
I'm still not sure if we should use LMP or GMP. Imo I think LMP is fine?

Maybe GMP is easier for maps.


But why are we some people using faster projectiles when u have 20q incinerate? I've played with 20q incinerate and I think the range is enough.



I prefer to use GMP, i have a 20q Incinerate and still use faster projectiles i really like the range with this setup.



Aren't we supposed to get close and personal with everything for better results (RF)?



The RF help's boost the damage of incin a great deal this is one of the main reasons why we use it and yes when we get up close the dmg+5 streams of incin does a crazy amount of damage but, often i'm killing large packs that are almost off screen so why get up close and personal when i dont have to.
UPDATE!
So last night i finally took the final part of the build thats really brings it to life.... Inner Force!
Boy is this build a slaughter fest! and since i added the 4th endurance charge all Physical damage is now trivialized! The only other change i made as well was running my lightning warp in my Dori's
Now alot of times when i warp in i prolif everything with shock and thus 25% more damage from the celestial punishment node! just incase the ignige didnt get in there for whatever reason!
This build is quite solid and this after noon ill embark on my very first Atziri run with her and see how it fairs! ill be lvl 85 when i try this endeavor so it might rough going at first but im sure its nothing a couple more lvls cant fix! from this point on everything goes to more life and more elemental damage! so i can actually see this build as possibly going all the way to 100 if i keep at it!
There is a fine line between Consideration and Hesitation.
The former is Wisdom, the latter is Fear.
I still don't have IF because whenever I try to I end up having shitty life regen. If someone can explains this to me, please do. I have life regen about 668 tooltip.
Censored.
I was thinking some more...


How about Added Chaos instead of Added Cold for the 6th link ?

And could we run Apep's rage instead of doryani's for extra damage and then use doryani's belt for leech.. I guess we would lose out too much life/res from the belt?
Pm me on forums or ingame: Chickenlal
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kolyaboo wrote:
I still don't have IF because whenever I try to I end up having shitty life regen. If someone can explains this to me, please do. I have life regen about 668 tooltip.

Post your tree here or check yourself on poebuild. 668 says nothing. Regen works as % of your max life.
And what is your fire res atm? With 20 pof suppose to be 88. Don't forget you need lvl 20 pof=) to get extra 1 fire res.

With only Devotion 5% extra degen you need (100 - 88) *0.9*1.05 = 11.34% life regen

With Inner force 21% +5% extra degen and 1 extra fire res(100-89)*0.9*1.26 = 12.474% life regen.
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Chickenlal wrote:
I was thinking some more...


How about Added Chaos instead of Added Cold for the 6th link ?

And could we run Apep's rage instead of doryani's for extra damage and then use doryani's belt for leech.. I guess we would lose out too much life/res from the belt?

With my +138 max life belt it will be around 400 life lost. It's not too bad. Sad thing- your curse gets useless/ele damage nodes useless as well.
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Demonoz wrote:
UPDATE!
So last night i finally took the final part of the build thats really brings it to life.... Inner Force!
Boy is this build a slaughter fest! and since i added the 4th endurance charge all Physical damage is now trivialized! The only other change i made as well was running my lightning warp in my Dori's
Now alot of times when i warp in i prolif everything with shock and thus 25% more damage from the celestial punishment node! just incase the ignige didnt get in there for whatever reason!
This build is quite solid and this after noon ill embark on my very first Atziri run with her and see how it fairs! ill be lvl 85 when i try this endeavor so it might rough going at first but im sure its nothing a couple more lvls cant fix! from this point on everything goes to more life and more elemental damage! so i can actually see this build as possibly going all the way to 100 if i keep at it!

I'm afraid you wasted that point with 4-th endurance charge. It's simply not needed. Only physical hit can kill you instantly- vaal smash and full rare pack charge=) Just avoid that. It's easy.
And you not really need inner force to kill atziri. Extra 12% MORE spell damage from RF is sweet but it's absolutely not necessary.
If you have 4500 dps w/o RF.
4500*1.59=7155
4500*1.71=7695
540 dps difference.
Yes, you loosing extra 40 AA mitigation. But getting 6 points in exchange. Up to you. I got rid of Inner force/3 scion life reg nodes.
Last edited by oldgood#5051 on Feb 10, 2015, 5:47:18 PM
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oldgood wrote:
I'm afraid you wasted that point with 4-th endurance charge. It's simply not needed. Only physical hit can kill you instantly- vaal smash and full rare pack charge=) Just avoid that. It's easy.
And you not really need inner force to kill atziri. Extra 12% MORE spell damage from RF is sweet but it's absolutely not necessary.
If you have 4500 dps w/o RF.
4500*1.59=7155
4500*1.71=7695
540 dps difference.
Yes, you loosing extra 40 AA mitigation. But getting 6 points in exchange. Up to you. I got rid of Inner force/3 scion life reg nodes.


Will you post your build? It seems like you've made some interesting changes.

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