Mathil's Evasion Crit DW Sword Cycloner - Smashes Atziri

I wouldn't call it dead. If you start as a ranger and don't go at all towards the marauder area, you can gain a lot of life as well a lot more base damage and attack speed as compared to before. Sure, we do lose a pretty big amount of crit, but that was probably intended by GGG.
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OK, so am I just not viewing this correctly?

When I put this tree together for 1.3 I am getting MORE crit, not less?

125% Weapon Crit Chance while Duel Wielding
135% Crit Chance w/ Swords
140% Crit Chance

55% Crit Multi
60% Crit Multi w/ swords

Doesn't that equal 400% Crit Chance and 115% Multi?

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Could you post the tree?
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Heres a quick one I did from scion start on the first 1.3 skill tree. Ranger can be done for like 3 more points.
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http://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/2ojz30/lf_a_discount_double_check_on_dw_sword_crit_tree/
Alright, there are a few things I really don't like:
-You are not going to get away with 140% life as an evasion based melee with abyssus. It just won't work.
-Resist nodes are pointless as its easy enough to cap them on gear. In fact, scion start is pointless and incredibly inefficient. Best would be ranger = duelist > shadow > scion.
-You dont take brutal blade or slashing comeback, which are really good clusters.
-You just ignore the scion life wheel. Why?

Try this



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or



All these builds get around 190+ life. We still get a shit ton of damage.
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Thanks for posting those builds Etherfire; I may start with one of those.

I was wondering though if using a 2-hand sword for cyclone might be better for this current patch. It seems that adding in one of the new reactive gems would be fun to add to this build. Riposte seems designed for dual wield but it is single target. Vengeance seems better for 2-hander, and since it is PBAoE, maybe it would better compliment cyclone (due to similar AoE shapes), and if a larger AoE than perhaps it would pair well it with Curse on Hit.

Also, this could be irrelevant, but the new change to Cyclone might also make it not so bad to be using a slower weapon as you get a hit off right when you activate the skill.
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Cyclone now attacks slightly slower and has an equivalent increase to damage. It now deals damage immediately when it is used, in addition to periodic damage. Cyclone no longer targets enemies, only locations.



I'm probably missing something obvious; I don't attest to be an expert, and dual wield is probably the safer bet, especially if Abyssus is acquired. Still, it doesn't seem like you'd need to change much from your tree to make it work:




EDIT: Maybe this guy's build is similar to what I'm thinking of...


EDIT 2: ZiggyD also just made a generic dual wielder build that also seems like it could have potential for cyclone. Man, decisions, decisions.
Last edited by Zedon on Dec 12, 2014, 3:37:57 AM
The problem with your guys builds is that you don't have nearly enough crit. Swords have such a low crit chance u need all the crit u can get. I made this tree.


https://poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgEAxthYYz38jM_2SF8_7w4UIFBH5FGCBxRx2XwbqmMX137BB3gNC2F5aMEELOkVICpNPydKyG6qtfKpbv4K2L01kluv3Q0ABhX2Ynl311b6_MUGIFh1dKAGohfcz352rPcy6hiYb9wjkn3lz38rBbWNv1FHMHzC7G1scFIqC_PqtUhw1YnT5w_cvTGwy_XUUjpSDjwYkbyfFE38S_6P8kWkOdCBR-Ii4taKOkJLeN2oMHHUI0p945-Hdmeg_94k_edUWK826IZg-OtNkiP2jX2sR31b6NbndGyMYqy0xQ==

185% max life.
530% Crit chance.
120% Crit Multi.
100% increase life recovery from flasks.
Phase/OG


Nice thing about this tree is that you can early switch some things around for the amount of risk you want to play at. Can easy get rid of a little life for more crit chance or phy damage. This is just my personal preference.
Your build, major stats(110 points):
-Life= 185%
-Phys Damage= 152%
-Attack Speed= 38%
-Crit= 530%
-Multi= 120%
-Accuracy= 12%


My build, major stats(110 points):
-Life= 193% (+8%)
-Phys Damage= 278% (+126%)
-Attack Speed= 88% (+50%)
-Crit= 465% + Power charge= 515% (-15%)
-Multi= 105% (-15%)
-Accuracy= 40% (+25%)

Compare for yourself :P

@zedon, ziggy's build doesn't really look too good. Other than that, Victordoom's thread is a good place for info.
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Last edited by Etherfire on Dec 12, 2014, 1:58:06 PM
I will have to look at it when I get home. Also considering doing a crit staff cyclone build. Have a way higher phy damage weapon but not as much attack speed. 2h also works better with the new counter skills. Bit no idea how good those will be
Do you still need 4% reduced mana reserved to run auras?

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