Herald' Buff + Curse on hit + Curse

So, Ive also been experimenting with these Heralds the last few days and after reading this I still can´t seem to understand some things. I´m basically just asking for clarification especially when comparing Herald of Ice and Herald of Thunder.


The 2 Points I´m referring to:

Someone wrote above

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HOI applies added cold damage to the initial attack - the first HIT is the ONLY attack that will trigger any cast on hit skills.

And from Mark_GGG we have this comment:

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The damage from the explosion does hit and is from the Herald of Ice skill - just like Tempest Shield. It does not currently work with curse on hit due to technical limitations of how it was implemented. We hope to change this in the future, but cannot say at this stage how long that could take.

First off: Mark didn´t say anything about the initial hit which I do with my main skill and to which the cold (HOI) or Lightning damage (HOT) is added.
So: Is the comment above correct and should my main attack apply a curse which is linked to my HOI/HOT by "curse on hit" while the Herald is active? Or should this only happen during the explosion part of the Heralds Skill mechanics ? The latter is already working right now (see below).


I tried these combinations and got the following results:


Variant A)

Main Skill: Ice Shot + Pierce

Herald of Thunder + Curse on hit + Assassins Mark

Result: The Initial Hit of my Main skill never applies any curse to any mob. If I kill a mob while its shocked though the lightning storm miniature strikes appear (HoT mechanics) and if those hit a mob (they always seem to hit) a single mob gets cursed.

This is exactly the opposite of what I was expecting after reading this Thread, taking into account account above comments. But I´m talking about Herald of Thunder and not Herald of Ice, so lets see how the latter is doing...


Variant B

Main Skill: Ice Shot + Pierce

Herald of Ice + Curse on hit + Assassins Mark

Result: The Initial Hit of my Main skill never applies any curse to any mob. If I shatter a mob though the ice explosion seems to apply the curse to all enemy this explosion hits (AoE Part of the HoI-Skill). So it works just like with the Herald of Thunder.


Variant B- Better visible

This mechanic is even better visible when using this combination with
a single Arrow skill only lv 1 so you dont kill everything before it can get cursed:

Puncture (lv 1) + Added cold damage (without this i couldnt get the shattering effect of HoI to work probably because my HoI is still too low lvl)

Active Herald of Ice + Curse on Hit + Assassins Mark


So back to my question:
Is this how its supposed to happen? Not applying the curse on my "normal" hit through the additional damage added to my standard attack by the Herald but applying it when the AoE mechanics kick in?



And regarding tooltips:
Could you change these so they tell you exactly what happens when you link a Curse on hit and a curse to a herald?
On my Herald of Ash the tooltip doesnt change at all when adding CoH and a Curse but on my HoI and HoT it just says "applies linked curses on hit" which should be changed to something like "curses are applied during the AoE Effect/Explosion effect of the Heralds" because thats how it works right now.


Another comment:
Applying the curse during the explosion is kind of useless because then most enemies are already dead (through the explosion). On the other hand applying the curse with the initial hit of the main attack might be a bit overpowered since its like an autocurse option. Or is this an intended function costing 2 gem slots?


Thanks to anyone who is reading this and can answer my question(s). Have fun playing!


Edit: Fixed some typos, English is not my first language ;)

Any answer to the above question? I'm curious too