[3.0] NeverSink's ♣ INDEPTH Tornado&Archer Guide ♣ Beginner friendly ♣ Rapid clear ♣ All bosses

Regarding ascendancy points, can someone explain why avatar of veil is preferred over avatar of the chase? (onslaught)

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LevthanDG wrote:

Got myself a Yriel fostering

on my first Pale Court kill and 6 linked it with 300 fusing. Can you use the bleed and tornado shot ? I guess you need to drop the elemental conversion part from the Quiver/aura ? is it even worth it ?

I don't know if you can scale bleed well enough for it to become an option.

That said, the chest is pretty much GG and with Kaom's top-2 for the chest slot imo (for bossing/all-around, for mapping QotF is probably still the best).

Why projectile weakness is not recommended instead of elemental weakness ? Path of building show that projectile weakness give twice more damage than ele weakness.

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RoCKeTs wrote:

Why projectile weakness is not recommended instead of elemental weakness ? Path of building show that projectile weakness give twice more damage than ele weakness.

Dunno what that site/app says, but minus ele resist is basically MORE dmg increase, while projectile weakness looks like increased modifier. That being said, projectile weakness adds on to clear speed (pierce, but you kill stuff on sight anyway) and to defensivness (knockback).

Just test both and you can see for yourself.

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LevthanDG wrote:

Got myself a Yriel fostering

on my first Pale Court kill and 6 linked it with 300 fusing. Can you use the bleed and tornado shot ? I guess you need to drop the elemental conversion part from the Quiver/aura ? is it even worth it ?

From wiki pages - bleed comes from phys damage. So you will want to stay as physical as possible.
Also, if going bleed as a main way, you may consider the new keystone under duelist for bleed stacking. But it's only really good if you can stack it up a lot.

Hatred would still be a goto option for DPS - while not contributing to bleed, it will give a lot of DPS and freezes.

Also Deadeye, as an ascendancy, offers some bleed chance and increased multipliers against bleeding enemies - you might want to take that. Not to mention there is extra + arrow which makes tornado hit more times == more bleeds.

Also you can use pierce - that way, one tornado shot will basically be able to apply loads of bleeds (assuming you want to go the stacking way) to whole group of monsters.

Overall, I would go for stacking bleed and would try to get more % chance to bleed. So maybe TS - GMP - Chance to bleed - phys projectile dmg - maim - pierce? Just guessing, but it might just work :)
Let us know if you try, it sounds pretty cool.

EDIT: Also you might want to hang on to Vulnerability - from what I recall, that was top curse for dmg over time

Hi all, hopefully someone can help. I am using this guide but am too squishy so set up the following as suggested in the guide:

CWDT+Ball Lightning+Blind+Knockback

Problem is it says 'skill can't be used' on the tooltip and I just tested it and nothing seems to happen when i'm hit. Any ideas?

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Siliarus wrote:

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RoCKeTs wrote:

Why projectile weakness is not recommended instead of elemental weakness ? Path of building show that projectile weakness give twice more damage than ele weakness.

Dunno what that site/app says, but minus ele resist is basically MORE dmg increase, while projectile weakness looks like increased modifier. That being said, projectile weakness adds on to clear speed (pierce, but you kill stuff on sight anyway) and to defensivness (knockback).

Just test both and you can see for yourself.

Proj Weakness is superior. Let's not mislead by what we think something "looks like."

What is CONC? I see it in the Blast Rain set up.

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_Saranghaeyo_ wrote:

Proj Weakness is superior. Let's not mislead by what we think something "looks like."

Thanks, that's what i thought, path of building is rarely wrong :)
Weird that it's never mentioned in this build.

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KingVerdict22 wrote:

What is CONC? I see it in the Blast Rain set up.

Concentrated effect support gem

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idkfa13 wrote:

Hi all, hopefully someone can help. I am using this guide but am too squishy

Probably because you have no life on your gloves, boots, both rings, amulet, you choose to go for fury bolt before golem's blood how do you expect to survive with no life ?
You have 4 life flask but none is anti bleeding or instant

I thought CONC was cast on critical with The added fire on blast rain? But also does anyone know the build path for ascendancy? Is it phase 1st or frenzy 1st or whatever is more beneficial at the time?