[3.0] NeverSink's ♣ INDEPTH Tornado&Archer Guide ♣ Beginner friendly ♣ Rapid clear ♣ All bosses

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theeze wrote:

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Август wrote:

Write please in which order to take Labyrinth's Raider points. I didn't find this. Thank you.

I would like to know this as well, is there an "optimal" path?

This is the order I went with for my build, worked out fine for me. :)

Do you have pastebin url for this guide?

Should the skill tree TS Raider change at all if using in hardcore? Also, I ran into pretty intense mana issues around level 40, where using hatred plus herald of thunder wasn't efficient. Do you have any recommendations for that? Thanks

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CultOfPersonality wrote:

Yeah I typically use Ice Golem with the curses (i just discovered frost wall) and I tend to use Arctic Armor far more than Hatred. In fact, I am beginning to.. hate.. hatred.

Do you still need to do all 6 of the trials before you can do the ascendancy quests? Also should Arctic Armor be ran separate or on cwdt type deal? I've been using it manually.

Yes you need to finish all 6 Trials before you can enter Uber lab at least. It should be ran separate, you need to have it enabled before you get damaged to actually work and save you not after since then it will already be late

Also if i'm not mistaken we can walk through Frost Wall because of phasing so it fits a bit, while the enemies can not.

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linklance wrote:

Should the skill tree TS Raider change at all if using in hardcore? Also, I ran into pretty intense mana issues around level 40, where using hatred plus herald of thunder wasn't efficient. Do you have any recommendations for that? Thanks

No idea about HC however about Mana issues (and HP too) on leveling at least Slitherpinch gloves help a bit. You can't lv20 Herald of Thunder because it needs 155 INT something the guide does not spec in so its a waste of time, try Herald of Ice/Ash.

Ice is nice because its Ele dmg does not get reflected and it can spread curses, Ash can not spread curses.

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CheesyP00fs wrote:

I'm having problems staying alive at level 72 doing first tier maps, damage is good. Could use some advice. EDIT; Forgot to mention i'm using build 1

It looks like your life is super low. I would drop Ming's Heart and get more life on pretty much everything.

Hi Guys,

first post here, so sorry for spelling mistakes, wrong use of words, et cetera.

I just wanted to ask if someone could have a look on my league character and can give me a hint, on what I should upgrade next (and what could be the possible modifiers on the gear).

Gameplay wise, survivability looks and feels fine, but my clearspeed is somewhat low. I know I could use enchantments, but I am a coward, when it comes to the lab (although, I have to admit, It's not that hard for the character...).

Many thanks in advance for your help Guys!

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Sir_chris666 wrote:

Hi Guys,

first post here, so sorry for spelling mistakes, wrong use of words, et cetera.

I just wanted to ask if someone could have a look on my league character and can give me a hint, on what I should upgrade next (and what could be the possible modifiers on the gear).

Gameplay wise, survivability looks and feels fine, but my clearspeed is somewhat low. I know I could use enchantments, but I am a coward, when it comes to the lab (although, I have to admit, It's not that hard for the character...).

Many thanks in advance for your help Guys!

Is your clear speed slow on trash mobs or in bosses ? If its on bosses it would make sense i guess because you run Ballista instead of Barrage

You mean, I should use barrage as single target skill? Should I switch Tornado Shot with barrage in boss fights or just plain exchange ballista with barrage?

The clear Speed get's slower on mobs beginning with tier 11, everything below is just fine und it goes like a breeze.

Since you do not run Kaom's you have enough slots to run 2 skills, TS and Barrage without having to run a 2nd weapon and swap on the fly on boss fights to use Barrage

I don't think that Ballista is worth in this patch, haven't used it but i haven't seen anyone running it, its slow i guess ? Slow paced in general, people are clearing maps on end game like its butter or like they are eating bacon, i can't imagine Ballista being worth. Barrage would make more sense for single target and TS is already perfect for AoE/clearing scenarios.

I am not experienced either i don't feel like i can recommend much however i'm pretty current with the Barrage thingy. Also it looks like you have refined your gear and rolls a lot so i guess you need to step it up go to the next level and get a Harbinger bow with good rolls, its the end game. It can also synergize better with Assassin's Mark than Projectile Weakness since Assassin's Mark helps us do more crits/improves crit dmg which fits with Harbinger's crit rolls.

Also i don't think that Faster Attacks is worth on TS, our Atck. Speed is already insane as it is maybe Pierce Support could work ? on lv20 and 20% it gives 29% projectile damage and pierce, a straightforward damage boost you need for those t11 maps in which you feel like doing less damage. Or Slower Projectiles Support could work, on lv20/20% it gives 39% proj damage by sacrificing some proj speed which still is insane. Both directly could improve your clear speed.

Where in this build do you get any life leech from? The tree does not have any, and the items don't either? Purely from bloodrage?