(Tree updated for 1.3) [1.2] Beyond Lightning Strike Crit Dagger!

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coreyvuong wrote:

im using this build and its awesome!

I have a question though.

would you suggest using LMP/fork or both to improve clear speed? or do you feel it clears fast enough without it.

Thanks!

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coreyvuong wrote:

im using this build and its awesome!

I have a question though.

would you suggest using LMP/fork or both to improve clear speed? or do you feel it clears fast enough without it.

Thanks!

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ancalagon3000 wrote:

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coreyvuong wrote:

im using this build and its awesome!

I have a question though.

would you suggest using LMP/fork or both to improve clear speed? or do you feel it clears fast enough without it.

Thanks!

LS has enough aoe and pierce, fork is not needed and lmp is a matter of opinion but I dont like it. lmp / fork = less damage on hit, and both would be too much reduced damage. Attacks do not shotgun, so there is no scenario in which lmp will increase damage. Maybe if the screen is really packed with mobs, it will increase your 'overall pack dps' but thats it.

@OP: Try PPD instead of FA. It scales both the physical and lightning portion, 40%+ *more* damage. Reason is your attack speed without FA is 1.63 x 2.06 x 1.48 = 4.96 aps with FA is x 2.06 x 2.06 x 1.48 = 6.28 aps, 26% more dps though in reality you only hit about an extra attack per second from about 5 aps to around 6aps, while PPD gives 40-50% more per hit damage.

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scarekrow8 wrote:

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ancalagon3000 wrote:

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coreyvuong wrote:

im using this build and its awesome!

I have a question though.

would you suggest using LMP/fork or both to improve clear speed? or do you feel it clears fast enough without it.

Thanks!

LS has enough aoe and pierce, fork is not needed and lmp is a matter of opinion but I dont like it. lmp / fork = less damage on hit, and both would be too much reduced damage. Attacks do not shotgun, so there is no scenario in which lmp will increase damage. Maybe if the screen is really packed with mobs, it will increase your 'overall pack dps' but thats it.

@OP: Try PPD instead of FA. It scales both the physical and lightning portion, 40%+ *more* damage. Reason is your attack speed without FA is 1.63 x 2.06 x 1.48 = 4.96 aps with FA is x 2.06 x 2.06 x 1.48 = 6.28 aps, 26% more dps though in reality you only hit about an extra attack per second from about 5 aps to around 6aps, while PPD gives 40-50% more per hit damage.

Thank you for the advice on PPD. I never gave it any thought. The only problem I have with it is when I melee something I wont do as much damage because that only scales the projectiles and not the melee part.

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ancalagon3000 wrote:

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coreyvuong wrote:

im using this build and its awesome!

I have a question though.

would you suggest using LMP/fork or both to improve clear speed? or do you feel it clears fast enough without it.

Thanks!

LS has enough aoe and pierce, fork is not needed and lmp is a matter of opinion but I dont like it. lmp / fork = less damage on hit, and both would be too much reduced damage. Attacks do not shotgun, so there is no scenario in which lmp will increase damage. Maybe if the screen is really packed with mobs, it will increase your 'overall pack dps' but thats it.

@OP: Try PPD instead of FA. It scales both the physical and lightning portion, 40%+ *more* damage. Reason is your attack speed without FA is 1.63 x 2.06 x 1.48 = 4.96 aps with FA is x 2.06 x 2.06 x 1.48 = 6.28 aps, 26% more dps though in reality you only hit about an extra attack per second from about 5 aps to around 6aps, while PPD gives 40-50% more per hit damage.

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coreyvuong wrote:

How much more sketch is it if you were dual-wielding daggers for more dps versus having the shield?

and would you use power charge on critical in the 5L? or drop it for something else.

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noobdw wrote:

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ancalagon3000 wrote:

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coreyvuong wrote:

im using this build and its awesome!

I have a question though.

would you suggest using LMP/fork or both to improve clear speed? or do you feel it clears fast enough without it.

Thanks!

LS has enough aoe and pierce, fork is not needed and lmp is a matter of opinion but I dont like it. lmp / fork = less damage on hit, and both would be too much reduced damage. Attacks do not shotgun, so there is no scenario in which lmp will increase damage. Maybe if the screen is really packed with mobs, it will increase your 'overall pack dps' but thats it.

@OP: Try PPD instead of FA. It scales both the physical and lightning portion, 40%+ *more* damage. Reason is your attack speed without FA is 1.63 x 2.06 x 1.48 = 4.96 aps with FA is x 2.06 x 2.06 x 1.48 = 6.28 aps, 26% more dps though in reality you only hit about an extra attack per second from about 5 aps to around 6aps, while PPD gives 40-50% more per hit damage.

actually LMP might give you more dmg, think about it, you dont miss as many mobs that way, so against a group of enemies you actually deal more dmg+when you get a really good dagger dmg becomes less and less of an issue and you only want as much clear speed as possible

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ancalagon3000 wrote:

Had tried lmp, never seen much difference, the extra aoe is offset by the huge reduction. And your single target is gimped for it.