1.3 ✮ The Crit DoT Chin Sol build ✮ Puncture Trap / Ice Shot (Build of the Week S3E3)

Bit tough on mana when leveling. Lvl 29 shadow here.



I have to drink mana flasks a lot to keep the ice shots going. Will it get better? Is there anything i can do to make things easier at this level?

Here is my passive tree as well.

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Schizo87 wrote:
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xythian wrote:
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KRYPTONINER wrote:
Hmm would grabbing Charima node (8% reduced mana) with the other 4% reduced mana node would enable me to run with 3 auras (hoa+hatret + haste)?


Mana Reserved: 60% + 60% + 25% = 145% Mana

Reduced Mana: 71% (20 gem) + 8% + 4% = 83% reduction

145 * .83 = 120% Mana

Nope, not enough.


Don't think that's correct.
It's something on the line of
Reduced mana 0.71 (20 gem), tree -12% (0.88)

145% x 0.71 x 0.88 = ~91% reserved


Yeah, my bad, I forgot they're not additive. I haven't had mana reserved nodes in a while. But, from what I remember the reduced mana effects act on each aura independently and not as a lump sum. This changes the output due to rounding and yadda yadda.

60 * .71 * .88 = 37.49 * 2 ~= 74
40 * .71 * .88 = 24.992 ~= 25

74 + 25 = ~99% mana reserved

A level 85 has 40 + 4 * 84 = 376 base mana and say 110 Int for another 55 mana yielding ~431 mana.

431 * .01 = 4.31 mana unreserved. Not enough to do anything.

I think that means we were both right and wrong about this. :)

Edit: I chose level 85 because that's roughly the minimum level a player would have for a level 20 reduced mana gem assuming they didn't buy one. But, each level past 85 would only add .04 unreserved mana which is next to nothing.
Last edited by xythian on Sep 27, 2014, 6:32:50 PM


Video coming shortly!
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Schizo87 wrote:
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Beholdd wrote:
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FeignDeath wrote:
How does op throw out 6 traps at the same time with this build?


Master Sapper I guess?


Nope, only adds one trap. OP uses 6. From the same trap gem. How?
Last edited by Beholdd on Sep 27, 2014, 7:12:08 PM
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Beholdd wrote:

Nope, only adds one trap. OP uses 6. From the same trap gem. How?


Video is an old build without vaal pact and a lot of trap nodes (+3 traps overall).
Here is my UBER Atziri run guys!!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1FsozGTUwg
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xythian wrote:
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Schizo87 wrote:
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xythian wrote:


Mana Reserved: 60% + 60% + 25% = 145% Mana

Reduced Mana: 71% (20 gem) + 8% + 4% = 83% reduction

145 * .83 = 120% Mana

Nope, not enough.


Don't think that's correct.
It's something on the line of
Reduced mana 0.71 (20 gem), tree -12% (0.88)

145% x 0.71 x 0.88 = ~91% reserved


Yeah, my bad, I forgot they're not additive. I haven't had mana reserved nodes in a while. But, from what I remember the reduced mana effects act on each aura independently and not as a lump sum. This changes the output due to rounding and yadda yadda.

60 * .71 * .88 = 37.49 * 2 ~= 74
40 * .71 * .88 = 24.992 ~= 25

74 + 25 = ~99% mana reserved

A level 85 has 40 + 4 * 84 = 376 base mana and say 110 Int for another 55 mana yielding ~431 mana.

431 * .01 = 4.31 mana unreserved. Not enough to do anything.

I think that means we were both right and wrong about this. :)

Edit: I chose level 85 because that's roughly the minimum level a player would have for a level 20 reduced mana gem assuming they didn't buy one. But, each level past 85 would only add .04 unreserved mana which is next to nothing.


Yep this time your calculation is pretty spot on except one thing. Herald of ash is 25% not 40%, heheh :)

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Beholdd wrote:
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Schizo87 wrote:


Master Sapper I guess?


Nope, only adds one trap. OP uses 6. From the same trap gem. How?


Getting to master sapper adds two traps. Also he probably has saboteur which adds one more trap which is currently still taken in his scion tree. I'm playing scion so I took saboteur. Might get master sapper if I do see a need.

What to do vs vaal boss? He doesn't move so puncture is useless there. Switch to frenzy?
Last edited by kompaniet on Sep 27, 2014, 10:42:29 PM
Sorry about the uber Atziri video link before only being the first 2 bosses. My bad.

Here is the uber atziri fight only
http://youtu.be/W_LTh5SG-Ik

and if you missed it, the first 2 bosses.
http://youtu.be/q1FsozGTUwg

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