The Mathil Tornado/Puncture Spec - Cheap Uber Atziri Viable

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xMustard wrote:

why do people keep putting faster attacks on puncture? puncture doesn't need to attack faster, it isn't about "damage per second" its about getting that one crit and letting them bleed out, using tornado shot or whatever other skill for damage in between.

also a quick way to boost dps is to throw in a swap setup a curse on hit with lightning arrow/gmp/vulnerability/and pierce or chain/with an optional 6th link of projectile weakness (if you can use two curses).

i guess the Paper dps just looks good mine goes from 49k puncture to 63k with FA....

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xMustard wrote:

why do people keep putting faster attacks on puncture? puncture doesn't need to attack faster, it isn't about "damage per second" its about getting that one crit and letting them bleed out, using tornado shot or whatever other skill for damage in between.

With faster attacks, you get that "one crit" faster. Alternatively, you can use trap + point blank combo.

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MortalKombat3 wrote:

With faster attacks, you get that "one crit" faster. Alternatively, you can use trap + point blank combo.

ya if you're good with traps, thats definitely a powerful way to go against bosses

As I didnt find anything on browisng throughout all pages of this thread, I am interested in what is the best 6l for puncture?

I "accidently" 6l my bow on trying to get 5links^^

Moreover I am intersted in your opinions on best tornadshot shot links.

Currently my 2 6links:

Puncture > Faster Attacks > Added Fire > Critical strike damage > physical projectile attack damage > ?Added chaos/Pointblank/W/e?

TS > Physical Projectile Attack Damage > GMP > Faster Attacks > PCoC > Increased critical strike damage


Opinions are welcome :)

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Barn3y_Gumble wrote:

As I didnt find anything on browisng throughout all pages of this thread, I am interested in what is the best 6l for puncture?

I "accidently" 6l my bow on trying to get 5links^^

Moreover I am intersted in your opinions on best tornadshot shot links.

Currently my 2 6links:

Puncture > Faster Attacks > Added Fire > Critical strike damage > physical projectile attack damage > ?Added chaos/Pointblank/W/e?

TS > Physical Projectile Attack Damage > GMP > Faster Attacks > PCoC > Increased critical strike damage


Opinions are welcome :)

If you're good with traps, Puncture > Trap > Point Blank > PPAD > Increased Critical Damage > Increased Critical Strikes/Additional Accuracy/Pierce (for Drillneck)

Not sute if I want to use traps ... Better than manually shooting?

Currently I have 71k manual puncture. Maybe I try traps. Any opinions which is better? Traps or non trap

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Barn3y_Gumble wrote:

Not sute if I want to use traps ... Better than manually shooting?

Currently I have 71k manual puncture. Maybe I try traps. Any opinions which is better? Traps or non trap

If you're good with traps- they deal way more damage (thx to MORE modif on both trap and PB), let you pick off those annoying reflect/prox shield/hiding_behind_meathshield mobs. But you lose some range, leech from single target attack and well, the ability to bleed some annoying pack (but you have TS for that, so usually not a problem).

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Barn3y_Gumble wrote:

As I didnt find anything on browisng throughout all pages of this thread, I am interested in what is the best 6l for puncture?

I "accidently" 6l my bow on trying to get 5links^^

Moreover I am intersted in your opinions on best tornadshot shot links.

Currently my 2 6links:

Puncture > Faster Attacks > Added Fire > Critical strike damage > physical projectile attack damage > ?Added chaos/Pointblank/W/e?

TS > Physical Projectile Attack Damage > GMP > Faster Attacks > PCoC > Increased critical strike damage


Opinions are welcome :)

I personaly feel for puncture

Puncture > trap > point blank > phys proj attack damage > crit strike damage > increased crit strike chance

will be a bit harder to use. but when those punctures hit.. OOOHHHH MAN . But i honestly wouldnt try this with a HC build. as you need to see what you trapping.

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Barn3y_Gumble wrote:

Not sute if I want to use traps ... Better than manually shooting?

Currently I have 71k manual puncture. Maybe I try traps. Any opinions which is better? Traps or non trap

Trap allows you to use 2 extra support gems to increase physical damage dealt (trap itself and point blank). Without traps, there are just NOT enough supports to fill 6-link for puncture. For 4-link, traps arent necessary, but for 6-link, you have little choice.

Also, NOT oneshotting yourself due to sudden reflected crit from puncture is good, too.

Linking elemental gems to puncture (added fire/cold/lightning/chaos/WED) is just a waste of slots. Increased Duration can help, but generally it isnt worth slot for single target.

well for my build, once i get up in level, i'll have Puncture/PPAD/Inc Crit Dmg/Added Fire Dmg/LMP/(Inc Duration). duration obviously the optional 6th link.

i don't have pierce or chain or anything there because i'll be cursing on hit with vulnerability and projectile weakness which doesn't give bonus to drillneck (makes that useless) but will give you full pierce change on anything else fired, as well as the extra dmg.

the increased duration will be great considering when you get that one crit it will last a lot longer. im trying to see if i'll be able to run 3x curses however, in order to corrupt some gloves with lvl 10-12 temporal chains, which also lengthens puncture duration. that will probably take some more figuring out though, not sure its possible i'll have to see. a corrupted amulet and one doedre's damning would make it work...